Spear point ID needed

[sturrat]

I found this spear point in shallow water metal detecting near lake michigan. Any idea of how old?

 

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[rock]

no but its a nice one

 

[Americus]

Nice find but I can't help you on its age.

 

[willjo]

I am pretty sure you have a Turkeytail-Harrison point. If it is it is 4,000 t0 2500 Before Present Archaic to woodland point. Most of them are around virgina and Ten, but look it up I am sure that is what it is.

 

[Twitch]

I think willjo is in the right space. Nice find my friend.

 

[Hot diggity]

I don't see any signs of age whatsoever. How did you clean it? Way too clean, but if you know it's good this is beauty actually worth a COA.

 

[Mark Todd]

Nice find! I think "willjo" nailed the I.D. also. Here's some more info. on the Harrison Turkeytails if your interested:

 

[Mark Todd]

I don't see any signs of age whatsoever. How did you clean it? Way too clean, but if you know it's good this is beauty actually worth a COA.

Flint/chert artifacts found in a large-lake or ocean shoreline context usually don't show any patina, if anything they often look somewhat polished if not worn away to the point of difficult to identify depending on sand type, sand content, and wave action.
In creeks and rivers where there's a high concentration of tannic acid from trees and other minerals in the soil patina will be more likely or expected.

 

[sturrat]

I found it about 8 inches down in a lake bottom. I just rinsed it of in the water "I was metal detecting in 2 ft of water and it came up with an old screw fuse"

 

[sturrat]

What would be a reason to get an COA and how would I go about that? I am not knowledgeable on these.

 

[Hot diggity]

Flint/chert artifacts found in a large-lake or ocean shoreline context usually don't show any patina, if anything they often look somewhat polished if not worn away to the point of difficult to identify depending on sand type, sand content, and wave action.
In creeks and rivers where there's a high concentration of tannic acid from trees and other minerals in the soil patina will be more likely or expected.

OK. Thanks MT Good to know. I've only found buried ones & used to more obvious signs of age. Very impressive find Sturrat. I only mentioned a certificate of authenticity because it looks too good for the unsure & an "experts" opinion on paper could be beneficial IF you had any intention selling in the future. If you keep them for yourself there seems little point though. The great lakes are great areas to search of course & if you check that area again who knows what you will find. HH

 

[sturrat]

If it is authentic what would be the going rate? I mainly keep my finds though

 

[Mark Todd]

What would be a reason to get an COA and how would I go about that? I am not knowledgeable on these.

COA, stands for: certificate of authenticity. It's something a person would pay for, to a presumed specialist to declare a particular artifact "authentic".
The only reason anyone would pay for a COA is to project a higher degree of credibility of authenticity for something they're selling.
In your case, you found it, so I don't think it's relevant even if you were looking to sell it.

 

[Hot diggity]

I'm not big on COA's since I trust myself more than a stranger. But IF you were to sell your better finds later, a COA could spike your profit 500 to a 1000% to some buyers. Turning a $25 stone into a $250 stone with a little more background.

 

[sturrat]

Got ya. Thx for all the info everyone. Learned a lot today. Found my only other arrowhead water metal detecting one year ago this week.

 

[sturrat]

Here is a picture of that one.

 

[Hot diggity]

Very nice! Keep hitting that area!

 

[Mark Todd]

If it is authentic what would be the going rate? I mainly keep my finds though

It's a real nice find, but not something worth big bucks, but its rarer than a seated quarter. I don't buy or sell but based on what I see on online sales I'd expect $75-200 range. If you can find a nice "Fulton Turkeytail" like this, then different story:

 

[Mark Todd]

Very nice! Keep hitting that area!

Greetings" Hotdiggity"from one late nighter to another. We must of been browsing t-net at the same time, that was a reasonable question you had regarding patina. Best regards!

 

[Hot diggity]

Ha! Best to you aswell fellow owl. I gotta head south to one of those lakes sometime. Great artifacts. Cheers! & happy Halloween