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My sincereced apologies, for waking "the sleeping horse". I have read the posts on the old forum, and like many others I still have lots of questions.
I remember seeing this story first, on TV. reinactment. I had read about it once in the past I'm sure, but then it was only light reading just before bedtime. My Father told me about the tale again, a few weeks ago, but he could not remember the name of the tale. So, after searching the internet for a tale to which I had no name, I went to the local library and got a copy of 'Buried Treasures of the American Southwest' by W.C. Jameson.
Other than the fact the author includes Arkansas, as part of the southwest, the legends within seem fairly detailed.
The Adams Diggings is of particular interest, mainly because there are decent clues.
from what I read on the old posts adams was in the military. but in the version in this book it says he worked for a frieght company. just wondering where that ties in.
Adams camps near gila bend.
Adams gets his horses run off, he goes to get the horses back comes back to find his camp ransacked and totalled. he goes to a nearby Pima village, where he works on trading some of his horses to the miners for proovisions, a mexican dressed as an apache shows up, tells adams about the gold filled creek la ti da la ti dee.
so this mexican apache named 'Gotch Ear' says it's two weeks on horseback to this location, from where they are. 14 days later they camp in an irrigated pumpkin patch and the next morning, to the gold.
canyon walls, hidden entrance. little door on one side of the canyon. ( you don't suppose someone might at least remember thier right from their left?)
adams described the canyon as a perfect 'Z' where on horse back you could touch both sides and it went down hill.
opens up into a valley filled with pine trees and cottonwoods. stream runs through the middle. at the northwestern end, is a waterfall (the water fall is at the northwestern end, they obviously don't enter the canyon from the northwestern end, and they decend to get to the valley. where does the water go? in my experiences that is a good way to make a lake.) beyond the far ridge is mountains 'gotch ear' calls the peloncillos.
the cabin was built for protection from the weather, according to this tale, winter was coming.
chief nana pays a visit, calls the place sno ta hay, says not to go above the waterfall.
men are sent to a fort for supplies Fort Wingate. estimated four days there, four days back.
arrogant white miner goes above the waterfall, everybody dies. well not everybody.
many many years later adams sees nana at wingate, asks him if he's been to sno ta hay canyon.
which obviously didn't rekindle a friendship between those two.
so, we are left with alot of questions and few answers. I'm diving into this with both feet, and Intend to follow every possible clue. Even if the place has infact been mined out. I want to stand in that valley with my own two feet.
I remember seeing this story first, on TV. reinactment. I had read about it once in the past I'm sure, but then it was only light reading just before bedtime. My Father told me about the tale again, a few weeks ago, but he could not remember the name of the tale. So, after searching the internet for a tale to which I had no name, I went to the local library and got a copy of 'Buried Treasures of the American Southwest' by W.C. Jameson.
Other than the fact the author includes Arkansas, as part of the southwest, the legends within seem fairly detailed.
The Adams Diggings is of particular interest, mainly because there are decent clues.
from what I read on the old posts adams was in the military. but in the version in this book it says he worked for a frieght company. just wondering where that ties in.
Adams camps near gila bend.
Adams gets his horses run off, he goes to get the horses back comes back to find his camp ransacked and totalled. he goes to a nearby Pima village, where he works on trading some of his horses to the miners for proovisions, a mexican dressed as an apache shows up, tells adams about the gold filled creek la ti da la ti dee.
so this mexican apache named 'Gotch Ear' says it's two weeks on horseback to this location, from where they are. 14 days later they camp in an irrigated pumpkin patch and the next morning, to the gold.
canyon walls, hidden entrance. little door on one side of the canyon. ( you don't suppose someone might at least remember thier right from their left?)
adams described the canyon as a perfect 'Z' where on horse back you could touch both sides and it went down hill.
opens up into a valley filled with pine trees and cottonwoods. stream runs through the middle. at the northwestern end, is a waterfall (the water fall is at the northwestern end, they obviously don't enter the canyon from the northwestern end, and they decend to get to the valley. where does the water go? in my experiences that is a good way to make a lake.) beyond the far ridge is mountains 'gotch ear' calls the peloncillos.
the cabin was built for protection from the weather, according to this tale, winter was coming.
chief nana pays a visit, calls the place sno ta hay, says not to go above the waterfall.
men are sent to a fort for supplies Fort Wingate. estimated four days there, four days back.
arrogant white miner goes above the waterfall, everybody dies. well not everybody.
many many years later adams sees nana at wingate, asks him if he's been to sno ta hay canyon.
which obviously didn't rekindle a friendship between those two.
so, we are left with alot of questions and few answers. I'm diving into this with both feet, and Intend to follow every possible clue. Even if the place has infact been mined out. I want to stand in that valley with my own two feet.