tiny pinback with star/Solved

[jopher]

Dug this from a lake bottom today in northern Mi.


Its seemingly insignificant and yet the effort was made to stamp a pat. date on it.
Anyone think or know if this may be something more than a common pin??
Thanks for any input....Joe

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: tiny pinback with star

The single star would indicate the wearer had a son in the war - WWI by the date.

 

[DevilDog812]

Re: tiny pinback with star

The single star would indicate the wearer had a son in the war - WWI by the date.

yep. "blue star service flag" or just "service flag"

 

[jopher]

Re: tiny pinback with star

Thank you...thank you. I tried a patent search ...without sucess ,and all I had to do was ask the t-netters.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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Does the date say 1912? 9-6-12?

I spent a good hour searching 1912 patents but now I realize it may say 1917.

The Service Star wasnt used until 1917. It helps to have all the correct information to start but I should have asked. Now I give up. Good Nite.

If its 1912 its a jewelry patent for clasp or something (not the design)

If its 1917 it may be the original WWI patent design. Good ID Charlie

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: tiny pinback with star

I found a very similar one, but with cloisonné/enamel colors, on that big auction site. What you wanted was the blue star. A gold star signified killed in service. Parents or widow of a fallen serviceman can still request a gold star pin from the Dept. of Defense. I assume servicewomen also, now.

Search under "Service Star Pin, 1917" or "Son in Service Pin" and there are several hits.

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: tiny pinback with star

The WW I service pin was also given to families who had sons in the service and to sweethearts (called a 'sweetheart' pin) of the servicemen--perhaps to ward off 'pursuers' while the GI was 'over there'.

Don.......

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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Search under "Service Star Pin, 1917" or "Son in Service Pin" and there are several hits.

I wanted to pull up the patent but Im not searching anymore until I know the date lol.

The last number is in the shadows and I also need to know what is after PAT for a proper Google search.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: tiny pinback with star

I found a very similar one, but with cloisonné/enamel colors, on that big auction site. What you wanted was the blue star. A gold star signified killed in service. Parents or widow of a fallen serviceman can still request a gold star pin from the Dept. of Defense. I assume servicewomen also, now.

Search under "Service Star Pin, 1917" or "Son in Service Pin" and there are several hits.

OK Charlie I took your tip. What came up is indeed 1917 and the enamel may have worn off but its not the same patent. So maybe it does say september 1912- a rare earlier version. I dont know but like I said Im not wasting anymore time myself until I know the markings in the shadows. .
http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-1-Star-Son-Service-Enameled-Pin-dated-1917-/360355453262

If anyone finds it post the link please. 8)

 

[jopher]

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Sorry guys , just got home from work.
The script is PAT'D
9-6-17

 

[Mackaydon]

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Scroll down to "IA 99" and you'll see one identical to yours being sold for $15.
The seller calls it a "Son in Service Lapel Pin"
http://www.jons-swords.com/insignia.asp
Don.......

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: tiny pinback with star

Scroll down to "IA 99" and you'll see one identical to yours being sold for $15.
The seller calls it a "Son in Service Lapel Pin"
http://www.jons-swords.com/insignia.asp
Don.......

Thats it.

Sorry guys , just got home from work.
The script is PAT'D
9-6-17

Thanks jopher. Im curious now. One patent in September and another in November of the same year (1917). Thats highly unusual. My guess one of them is a mistake. When I get a chance Ill try to find the patent(s).

 

[jopher]

Re: tiny pinback with star

Thanks again for the input.
The two patent dates struck me as odd also.
The star aligns horizontaly on the Nov. and vertically on the 9-6.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: tiny pinback with star

Thanks again for the input.
The two patent dates struck me as odd also.
The star aligns horizontaly on the Nov. and vertically on the 9-6.

You are correct. The star is tilted on the Sept patent.