Trade Silver Makers Mark Help

[WawaDuane]

I'm re-posting this here hoping someone recognizes the makers mark. This was found in the general area of some old known trading areas and I have found other trade silver pieces in the same area. Any ideas? Thanks to Antiquarian for the suggestion to post it here.

 

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[Muddyhandz]

Well, I won't find it my "trade silver" books because it was not made in N.A. and is not "trade silver" but it is "fur trade silver."
Meaning, it was from a personal item that a fur trader owned and was cut up to make adornment.

Majority of "trade silver" was manufactured in Quebec with some coming from eastern Canada and the eastern U.S.
I could be wrong but do not recall any trade silver manufactured in the U.K.
Your piece is English but has been repurposed during the fur trade period based on the area you are in and the finds you are making.

This is all I can suggest......
https://www.925-1000.com/

Nice find and happy hunting!

 

[Muddyhandz]

Before I eat my shorts, there are some N.A. silversmiths that marked their pieces with the "passant lion."
I didn't find a match for the mark but in the lists of silversmiths, there's a James Ellis out of Quebec (1820-22) and then same name out of Toronto. (1848-78)
Assuming that second letter is an "E"
It's a long shot!

 

[WawaDuane]

Well, I won't find it my "trade silver" books because it was not made in N.A. and is not "trade silver" but it is "fur trade silver."
Meaning, it was from a personal item that a fur trader owned and was cut up to make adornment.

Majority of "trade silver" was manufactured in Quebec with some coming from eastern Canada and the eastern U.S.
I could be wrong but do not recall any trade silver manufactured in the U.K.
Your piece is English but has been repurposed during the fur trade period based on the area you are in and the finds you are making.

This is all I can suggest......
https://www.925-1000.com/

Nice find and happy hunting!

Thanks for the help!