Trash and Discrimination in the Water

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I have not done any searching in the water previously and was wondering on the amount of trash in the water. I used a Sovereign before on land and was quite happy with the machine; however, you do have to slow down your swing compared to other brands. I am now looking to purchase a detector for salt water (shallow; ie, not diving but will be up to the neck at times). I could easily purchase an Excalibur (basically a waterproof Sovereign), but wanted to know if one of the other waterproof detectors make more sense due to a faster swing speed; ie, the Sovereign was great at finding the items that were masked by iron and other trash. Is this an advantage in water? Also, with the water, is a fast swing speed even possible?

With all of that said, I would also like to be able to travel with my detector and wanted to know if the waterproof detectors break down as completely as the land based equivalents.

I cannot go to a local store and check on these questions because I am in Iraq and wanted to have my detector when I went to Thailand for a visit come October.

Thanks for the response.
 

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ezreddy.....You won't need to worry about your swing speed in the water. The water conditions and your coil size and thickness will pretty much dictate your swing speed. On many beaches the iron nulling capability of the Excal is a real benefit. You may want to research the White's BeachHunter 300 and the Garrett Infinium LS. If you maintain a water detector properly, you will have very few problems. The most important is to make sure your O-rings/seals are clean and free of any debris and lubricated with a very thin coating of silicone grease. As far as travel. Many water detectors have the coil and the headphones hardwired to the detector. You can still travel with them by taking the coil off of the shaft. However, some believe water detectors with detachable headphones and coils are more convenient to travel with. Don't forget to research long handled travel scoops(two piece handle scoops)....rdi
 

Rdi makes a lot of good points. The swing speed will be about like you did on land with the Sov Gt and since you are familiar with it the Excal 1000 should be the one for you. As for traveling with it, it does come off the shaft as does the battery pod and coil. The shaft does come apart, though with time they are stuck together like they are welded, so it might be a good idea to get a spare shaft.

As for other detectors, the Fisher CZ20 or 21 can work well and they also have a travel carrying case as an option. It used to be standard as I have a few left over. I haven't traveled with the Beach Hunter Id, but the 300 is the same only with a larger coil that isn't suppose to float. The old coil you had to hold down under water. It worked like the CZ20 only had the batteries in with the circuits so you needed to be extra careful when changing batteries so to close it up right.
 

Thanks ......Sandman forgot all about CZ-21
 

Thanks for the information so far. Based on some feedback, I will probably go with the excalibur. I will only have to take the shaft apart on my first trip there since I plan on leaving the md at my condo in Thailand. Now I only have to figure out whether it is the 800 or the 1000...hmmm
 

Go for the 10in. coil.... I've put a 12in on my Excal...and love it....rdi
 

I use a 1280X there is a learning curve with all machines but it is basically a turn on and go detector. I tend to hunt an area with a little discrimination and the sensitivity turned back to reduce the chatter. The swing speed is pretty much at your discretion with those settings. Over time If I do well I will hunt the area with no discrimination and full sensitivity. At this setting you have to slow your swing way down. I dig most if not all signals in both settings. You never know when you are going to move that pesky iron nail and allow a coin or ring to "talk" to you! I have the 1280X with the larger coil (10.5) and it has issues in shallow saltwater 6" or less and wet salt sand. Other than that it is an absolute tank!
 

I bet you will have lots of beautiful gold things to post if you are hunting in Thailand. Good luck and can't wait to see you posts.
 

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