Trigger Guard?

[MSRelic]

I believe this is a part of the trigger guard assembly from an old muzzle loader. Found on a civilian site. No sign of military action on the site. Can anyone confirm? Is there enough here to determine type or age of rifle?

 

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[timekiller]

Yea it's a guard I'm sure of.But to say off of what kind I'm not able!Could be pistol or rifle!Here are some to look at for yourself maybe you can find one that could match!
one page on rifles! http://www.cherrys.com/ped_rif1.htm
Second page on rifles! http://www.cherrys.com/ped_rif2.htm
A page on pistols! http://www.cherrys.com/ped_pist.htm
Hope I helped some!
Take Care!

 

[Lucas]

A good profile photo would be useful. Both ends are broken, correct?

 

[Iron Patch]

Top of the pic, looks like it's a broken piece right where the loops starts. Not sure if the lack of holes implies a different type, or broken piece from a pistol. Don't think it would be much effort to figure it out.

 

[timekiller]

Top of the pic, looks like it's a broken piece right where the loops starts. Not sure if the lack of holes implies a different type, or broken piece from a pistol. Don't think it would be much effort to figure it out.

Nice parts patch! I was going to say if someone knew the exact gun then I had a few parts for them to figure out!

 

[kuger]

Top of the pic, looks like it's a broken piece right where the loops starts. Not sure if the lack of holes implies a different type, or broken piece from a pistol. Don't think it would be much effort to figure it out.

Nice parts patch! I was going to say if someone knew the exact gun then I had a few parts for them to figure out!

Man,that escutcheon is killer!!!!

 

[timekiller]

Remember this Patch? They were in the post you talked about them being from a flint lock hammer!I see they were also used here on pistols! My pieces don't go all the way through so I think they are drawer polmels.But I could not find the post right now in a hurry and could not remember if yours did!Just thought I relay it to you as it was another place they were used.
Take Care!
Another site on muskets!
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/P1850PC.shtml

 

[Iron Patch]

Remember this Patch? They were in the post you talked about them being from a flint lock hammer!I see they were also used here on pistols! My pieces don't go all the way through so I think they are drawer polmels.But I could not find the post right now in a hurry and could not remember if yours did!Just thought I relay it to you as it was another place they were used.
Take Care!
Another site on muskets!
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/P1850PC.shtml

Yeah I was surprised how close one was to another. But that's the most I thought about it because neither relic really interests me.

 

[Lucas]

IP, your trigger guard is military.

TK, your gun is a repro. That lanyard screw is not common on original guns, and it would be threaded different from a jaw screw from a flintlock cock (the term hammer comes in with percussion guns).

You do have some nice parts tho... I especially like the thumb piece/escutcheon. 18th c. for sure.

 

[Iron Patch]

IP, your trigger guard is military.

TK, your gun is a repro. That lanyard screw is not common on original guns, and it would be threaded different from a jaw screw from a flintlock cock (the term hammer comes in with percussion guns).

You do have some nice parts tho... I especially like the thumb piece/escutcheon. 18th c. for sure.

Not my parts. They're not as common a find as I would figure around here given the military we turn up.


I agree on the early escutcheon, is top shelf for sure. I'd bet mid. 18th century too.

 

[MSRelic]

Thanks to all you guys for taking the time to reply with info and photos. Timekiller you went to a lot of trouble circling parts of trigger guard assemblies in those photos. Many thanks.

I searched hard for more parts but didn't turn up anything. The site I am hunting has yielded over 70 nondescript plain flat buttons (several tombacs) but just 4 or 5 relics like the broken trigger guard.

I'll green check this one. Don't think I'll be able to nail the gun type. Anyway, its cool just to have found it.

 

[Lucas]

I think (IMHO, emphasis on H ) that TK's third example is most likely. Possibly from a wrist break incident in the field. Fowling gun or rifle. Tombac era would work...

The only gun part I have is a cool one... the grotesque mask from a Brit pistol butt. Not sure where I put that...

 

[Iron Patch]

I think (IMHO, emphasis on H ) that TK's third example is most likely. Possibly from a wrist break incident in the field. Fowling gun or rifle. Tombac era would work...

The only gun part I have is a cool one... the grotesque mask from a Brit pistol butt. Not sure where I put that...

Those are cool, and never really see them posted! My friend dug a perfect condition one about 7 years ago. He also dug most of another too. Since then I don't think I seen anyone find one, definitely nothing from around here.

 

[Lucas]

Yeah well, some idiot (me ) tried to clean it, then said oops, and tried to put the patina back, and it turned neon green. If I can find it, I will post it, but you will need your sun glasses. :P

 

[Iron Patch]

Yeah well, some idiot (me ) tried to clean it, then said oops, and tried to put the patina back, and it turned neon green. If I can find it, I will post it, but you will need your sun glasses. :P

I wish I had a pic of my bud's find.... was awesome. Curious to see your find, color in all. There's probably something you can do to fix it.... and no, not black paint.

 

[timekiller]

IP, your trigger guard is military.

TK, your gun is a repro. That lanyard screw is not common on original guns, and it would be threaded different from a jaw screw from a flintlock cock (the term hammer comes in with percussion guns).

You do have some nice parts tho... I especially like the thumb piece/escutcheon. 18th c. for sure.

Keep me straight Yea I knew it was a thumb piece.Could be french The other piece beside it is old as well as it has a colonial type flower on it.Yes mid 18th century would go for that site.The other piece I'm thinking a little later possibly like Rev.War era. as it was with other rev war finds.
I know this is not my post but while I got you here what do you think on the other piece with the flower design?

This was one that was close I thought back when I found it!
Several French trade gun parts, including this escutcheons, provide clues to this being a French trader's house.