Trump to Declare National Emergency Today

[ARC]

Who told ya to think!

Your wife did.

 

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[Goodyguy]

Anyone making less than $1,000.00 a week will want to stay on unemployment benefits.
At least until the checks run out. Usually 26 weeks without extensions.

 

[ticndig]

The only things I see closed in town are both restaurants . everyone else is working as far as I can see. But I suspect more are not working then I'm aware of.
This is a very rural area with very few businesses.just a few gas stations ,a hardware, saw mill and post office . all are open.
I suspect most people leave the area for employment.

being Rural and retired makes the social distancing thing very easy. less than 10 people have it in the county I live in. was zero until this week.
I really don't know whats best for the country but can see the problem for the masses.

 

[BigWaveDave]

Any business that provides an income, supports and feeds a family, and pays taxes is, in my opinion, essential.
The following is a list of “non-essential businesses that I came up with.

 

[Tahts-a-dats-ago]

Ok...

I have put some thought into this... tell me what your opinions are...

Social distancing should be enough... let people who do jobs like lawns... pools... pet grooming... some construction... amongst a million other jobs where human to human contact is limited or nil.

As far as people "ordered to stay home"... um... it dawned on me... THIS IS AMERICA.

If people want to go out and take that chance... it is their right to do so as long as they follow "protocol" and it effects no one else.

In other words... they follow the mask and no gathering... keep 6 foot away from others. etc etc.

As long as "measures" are taken and followed then some should be allowed to continue... not just the jobs someone else wHO doesn't need the money deemed "necessary".

It should be highly advised for those more susceptible to stay home... but if they choose not to... this is also a choice to THEY should be able to make.

Ya get sick... ya get sick... you took that chance knowing that you could so if it worth the risk or they want to anyway... let em.

The economy will never recover from a total shutdown here for any length of time while this mess gets cleaned up.

Our costs for living are too high and the pays are too low for the masses here to endure it for any time over a month.

Just a thought... anyone else wanna weigh in on this ? ? ?

For me the threats surrounding governmental intrusions are far more worrisome than any virus could ever be.

We’ll overcome the virus. In time it will be a distant memory; my fear is that in time freedom will be a distant memory as well.

It has been said that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” I think it is overly kind to ascribe all of the various edicts to good intentions, but even if that is the case the fact that our society has so easily surrendered Constitutional rights is very troubling.

Those edicts are largely encased in the pretense of saving lives; the truth of the matter is that the purpose is to spread the pain over much longer periods of time (flattening the curve).

Social distancing, stay-at-home-orders, closing down businesses, limiting access, etc.. - none of it will stop the virus from spreading. The purpose is to slow the spread (of the virus) and there’s some doubt about the effectiveness in that regard.

Scientists are frantically searching for a vaccine, but the most optimistic guesstimates still have that vaccine some 12-18 months away. Until that point the best we have is whatever treatments are available — some of which appear to have a good amount of promise.

Still, the truth of the matter is that this virus will have to run its course; at least until the point of time that a viable vaccine is found. There are some rather strong indications that herd immunity is already occurring; according to some recent data up to 50% of those tested (for Covid-19) have had it and now have immunity. That data suggests the virus has spread far more than most “experts” acknowledge, and that the threat to society is significantly less than many of those “experts” have suggested.

Of course the data is still incomplete, but the same can be said with regards to the damage being done by the mandates issued.

What costs are we paying for proclamations driven by wild hysteria?

Once alienated, freedom is decidedly difficult to reattain. Our nation’s history is fraught with examples of people who died in their quest for freedom — to the tune of millions. Most of us recognize them as heroes; people who gave all, so that others could live as free people who weren’t bound by the determinations of some wanna-be king.

Many will lose their homes, their businesses, their livelihood. We’re all losing freedom. People will die as a direct result of the actions taken by government. People will suffer the consequences of stress, and depression. Alcohol and drug abuse will almost certainly increase, as will divorces and cases of domestic violence.

If the economy fully crashes, those consequences will skyrocket.

Once the hysteria dies down, the politicians will be crying about the drastic loss of revenue, and (naturally) they’ll propose a new cure in the form of tax increases that take even more of our money.

The states have long held the legal power to quarantine those infected with contagious diseases. That right has existed since the inception of this nation (predating it actually). But there is a huge difference between quarantining those known to be infected, and locking down an entire population: one is an undesirable necessity at times, while the other is just outright infringement — a direct violation of individual freedoms.

No due process; just a declaration that effectively treats each one of us as if we’re automatically guilty of some undetermined criminal act and no court date in sight. As an added bonus we are now inflicted with self-appointed arbitrators who take it upon themselves to decide who can do what and when they can do it.

All because of a virus that is still largely not understood and “experts” issuing conflicting statements that do little other than driving hysteria and the ensuing panic. It can’t be transmitted person to person, to it is transmitted person to person. It isn’t airborne, to it is airborne and can stay in the air for hours. Face masks won’t help, to face masks are mandatory — despite the fact that it’s near impossible to buy a face mask and those that are available aren’t capable of stopping anything besides common sense and dirty looks from the self-appointed arbitrators.

We need some perspective.

I’m not discounting the threat of the Wuhan virus, but there are diseases whose death counts make the virus look like a piker in comparison. Threats are a fact of life. We’re constantly surrounded with potential threats that could, at any moment, end our lives. And yet we persevere; we go on with life. We don’t shut down our economy. We don’t succumb to edicts that restrict us to little more than criminals sentenced to house arrest. We don’t undertake actions that guarantee disruptions that will cause great harm to many in our society.

Despite all the mandates, the closures, the stay-at-home orders, the social distancing — the self-inflicted damage done to our economy, our society, our health in general, and our freedoms: the Wuhan virus will run its course.

We have to accept that whether we like it or not.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

WOW 1,000 a week... that would be like... 1/2 of Florida's entire population. heh

Florida has little over 12 million people 18 and older, approximately 500,000 people have filed for unemployment since March 1st.

 

[ARC]

Florida has little over 12 million people 18 and older, approximately 500,000 people have filed for unemployment since March 1st.

Well since the application site has been down... and the lines are beyond sight... and hardly anyone has gotten through... it amajor mess.

Site crashed weeks ago.

So expect that number to triple at least when its all said and done.

Just over a four day period at the end of March, more than 860,000 calls were made to Florida’s unemployment center.


PS... don't forget... Florida has almost 3 times more people than New York does.... and I think we are like 3rd in nation for population.

I think we are over 22 million people here now.

 

[ARC]

Just checked... "Our current estimate for Florida's population in 2020 is 21.99 million"

And if you take into account that i can point out 20 people around my neighborhood alone that I know for a fact have not been counted here.

Not to mention all the illegal aliens... from Mexicans to Cubans to everyone else... i bet there is another 2 million lurking in this state.

This is the most transient state there is.

AND... we get another 22 million per year JUST VISITING. heh

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Site is not down, I access the website ever day multiple times a day, site is slow and you sometimes time out and or get server error messages. The 860,000 calls are people calling checking on their application status, reset pins and questions on application. We filed on March 22, I average 8 to 10 calls a day to the 800 number 7 days a week myself trying to check on wife's status which still says "pending" have yet to reach live person or been able to leave message...

 

[ARC]

Well i don't know what news you watch but here there are "mob scenes" of people not even social distancing grasping for paperwork...

lines blocks and blocks long with cops everywhere handing out forms.

MOST if not all of them are spaced no more than 3 feet apart... mostly looks like 2.

Distance... "out the window".

 

[ARC]

TH check this out... wonder how many calls on that chart were yours

https://www.news4jax.com/news/flori...nemployment-florida-call-centers-overwhelmed/

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The 12 million figure I gave is people 18 and older not every man woman and child. Because of the work requirements to draw unemployment most people under 18 will not qualify and illegal aliens do not qualify for unemployment in florida.

I have easily made overcast hundred calls, none were answered other than recorded messages.

 

[ARC]

The 12 million figure I gave is people 18 and older not every man woman and child. Because of the work requirements to draw unemployment most people under 18 will not qualify and illegal aliens do not qualify for unemployment in florida.

I was just talking about the amount of people in general... all feeding from the same trough. heh

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I was just talking about the amount of people in general... all feeding from the same trough. heh

I was replying to your post below which you deleted for some reason.

 

[Duckshot]

All I know about government unemployment compensation is that it is already your own money that they don't have before they give it to you.

 

[ARC]

I was replying to your post below which you deleted for some reason.

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I was cleaning / straightening things out in thread... i had multiple back to back posts... I put them together instead is all.

Unless just deleted it.

After all... what i say on this matters little... sheesh what i say period. :P

 

[KEYSHUNTER]

just thinkin..for those about to retire and collect SS...I bet the age is going to increase ??

 

[Johnnybravo300]

Here in Gunnison people were partying and excited they didnt have to work anymore and get free checks.
Now a month later they are stealing groceries and realizing there arent any free checks.
Boy how the attitudes changed! Good job people!

 

[Kray Gelder]

Here in Gunnison people were partying and excited they didnt have to work anymore and get free checks.
Now a month later they are stealing groceries and realizing there arent any free checks.
Boy how the attitudes changed! Good job people!

Are the weed stores still open?

 

[Goodyguy]

Has anyone or anyone you know received the $1200 stimulus check?
On the news they said the checks started going out Wednesday April 8th

I check my online bank statement every day. No check so far.