unknown interesting medal

[Carson Coin Master]

Don't have any clue on this medal. I picked it up at an antique shop for a dollar, even the guy selling it had no clue where it came from or what it is. Hoping someone on here could help me identify it. The item looks like stamped tin or sterling with gold plating over it. it weighs 9.5 grams and reads on the front "AQUISGRANUM" assuming this is Latin. On one side of the medal it has the letter "A" and on the opposite side is the letter "U" there is an owls face at the top and a nude child like figure holding two fish in the middle standing on a platform with the number 53 and below that the number 25. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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[Carson Coin Master]

Well I will give this another shot. I tried contacting the organizations a few times now in regards to this medal and no response from any of them. Anyone else have a clue what this medal commemorates or what the value might be?

 

[Carson Coin Master]

I'm revamping this thread because I still have found nothing on it. I have taken it to numerous antique dealers and have come up with no answers. Maybe someone that hasn't seen this thread yet might have an answer.

 

[Moonrover]

I'm revamping this thread because I still have found nothing on it. I have taken it to numerous antique dealers and have come up with no answers. Maybe someone that hasn't seen this thread yet might have an answer.

Contact the German Embassy in Washington, DC. Seems a bit overkill, but they handle requests like this all the time. Most requests are concerning how to get genealogical information, so I would expect the embassy staff to send you a prepared list of governmental contacts in any city you request. From there it is paperwork or e-mail work to get in contact with someone who will likely refer you to somebody else. Yep, they have bureaucrats there too.

Eventually you will be chatting with someone who knows about that medallion. Communicate in English. They are able to deal with it. If you try to do a machine English to German conversion, you may insult someone's mother. <lol>

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I thought this thread was interesting and just wanted to stop by with this picture to establish that the boy holding the fish in the old Aachen, Germany fish market district is definitely a fountain. Otherwise nothing new to add at present.

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[ivan salis]

Au = gold symbol

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

The catalog pictured below is from the Aachen University official website, which (in my opinion) is what the A.U. stands for. I post this image to illustrate that the Germans seem to have an unusual way of depicting dates, such as the 1872-73 on the catalog. There may be a possibility that's what the 53 and 25 on the medallion represent. ? (Just a guess) ?

Startpage - RWTH AACHEN UNIVERSITY

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I just found this Public Relations contact for the University, which includes several email addresses and phone numbers ...

Division 3.1 - Press and Public Relations - RWTH AACHEN UNIVERSITY

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I just found this which (for me) confirms the medallion is military related, and that the 53 is a Regiment number. The stein pictured below is from Aachen with the following text associated with it ...

Regimental stein : Lot 1060

Regimental Stein ~ Porcelain ~ District Commandership ~ Aachen ~ 1901-03 ~ 29th Fusilier Regiment ~ Cologne

Notice the 29/65 on the stein ...

[ Click to enlarge ]

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I have been looking around for anything I can related to the German 53rd Regiment. And although I have been finding an assortment of references, I cannot narrow down whether the medallion is WWI or WWII. Below is a link related to "The Battle of Aachen" during WWII. But no mention of the 53rd Regiment that I could see. The fountain was built in 1911, which means the medallion could just as easily be from WWI.

Battle of Aachen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

CCM ~

Are you just guessing that the top part looks like an owl's face? Or upon close inspection you are certain of it? The reason I ask is because I'm wondering if that portion might not be a variation of the coat of arms for Aachen that looks something like this ...



With a variation that looks like this ...

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

As ivan salis indicated ... AU = Gold Symbol

It also means ...

In the German-speaking parts of Schleswig-Holstein, rivers which cross the border in Denmark are called Au.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I'm still trying to identify the item and find a connection between what I believe is a German military pin and a fountain in the city of Aachen, Germany called "Fischpüddelchen." I have also been researching the numbers 53/25 which I have found references to individually pertaining to regiments - divisions - etc., but nothing specific yet to tie the two numbers together. At this juncture I am thinking along the lines of some type of post-WWII veterans insignia pin ... but nothing to prove it as yet.

In the Fish Market is a fountain with a naked small boy who holds two
fishes in his hands. This monument is called the “Fischpüddelchen“ and was
designed by Hugo Lederer in 1911.

http://www.aachen.de/en/ts/PDFs/Fountains.pdf

Fischpüddelchen
Fisch = fish
Püddelchen = small naked child

"Das Fischpüddelchen" [Designed] by Clemens Dick [in] 1954. I think this [fountain] is a copy of the original [designed by] Hugo Lederer [in] 1911 at the Fischmarkt.

Read more: "Fischpüddelchen-Brunnen" Aachen Things to Do Tip by dila

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I would find it hard to believe if the "25th Infantry" and "Aachen" referred to here is not in some way related to the item in question which is marked 53/25 ...

List of Imperial German infantry regiments 25th (1st Rhenish) Infantry ~ "Von Lützow" ~ 1813 ~ Aachen ~ VIII Army Corps. List of Imperial German infantry regiments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Carson Coin Master ~

If you go to either ...

Google: ......... https://www.google.com/
Google Images: Google Images

... and enter the word Fischpüddelchen, you will find a jillion references and pictures of the Boy/Fish fountain in Aachen, Germany. And yet irregardless of how I word it, I cannot find a single reference or picture of a ... Pendant ~ Medal ~ Medallion ~ Badge ~ Insignia ~ Fob ~ or whatever you want to call it, like the item in question. The same non producing results occurred when I applied these terms to both Aquisgranum and Aachen, which leads me to believe the item is rare and had a very limited production. Otherwise something surely would have turned up.

As was suggested earlier by others, I recommend you contact as many individuals as you can in Aachen, Germany and hopefully one of them will know something. I still believe the item is military related and also recommend you contact some German military collectors/experts and see what one of them has to say.


I might look around from time to time and see what else I can find, but for the most part I have hit a dead end.


Good luck

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Last but not least ...

I am by no means a German military expert, but the only connections I could find in relation to the numbers 53/25 were a ...

53rd Corp

53rd (5th Westphalian) Infantry

25th Infantry

25th Panzer Division