Unusual (for me) Mini Ball

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Found several normal 58 caliber mini balls today as well as this one. Never found one like this before, can anyone ID it? Is it confederate made?

 

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[smokeythecat]

Can we see the nose of it? Is it nose cast? At first glance I think it may be Confederate. I have to dig out my reference book.

 

[smokeythecat]

Looks like Mason and McGee #366. Confederate high base .577.

 

[Fullstock]

Can we see the nose of it? Is it nose cast? At first glance I think it may be Confederate. I have to dig out my reference book.

Yes, it looks nose cast smokeythecat

 

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[A2coins]

Really cool relics good job

 

[smokeythecat]

That is it.

 

[Fullstock]

That is it.

Thank you smokeythecat!

 

[Yak1366]

Very nice find!!!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Sorry, but no, that's not it. Your Minie-bullet is a .58 "US Regulation" minie, produced by the manufacturer of the .58 Williams "Cleaner" bullets. The key ID-clue is that its body-grooves are square with a perfectly-flat bottom, just like a Williams Cleaner, and quite unlike the "Confederate High-Base" (actually, Charleston SC Arsenal) minie's deep U/V-shaped body-grooves.
Check the photos of the CSA Charleston Arsenal minies in the Thomas-&-Thomas book (T&T-), at the following link. Go to it, and scroll down to the Search by: T&T number, then click on the bullet number (T&T-169).
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_search.asp
Click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity.

Your bullet is shown in the "Handbook Of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges" as bullet #156B. For those of you who don't own that excellent and inexpensive ($12) civil war bullet reference-book, you can view the T&T-book's bullet #156B (and A) by clicking on that number in the T&T section, here:
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_search.asp

Remember, click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity. You'll see that 156B is definitely your minie-bullet.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Sorry, but no, that's not it. Your Minie-bullet is a .58 "US Regulation" minie, produced by the manufacturer of the .58 Williams "Cleaner" bullets. The key ID-clue is that its body-grooves are square with a perfectly-flat bottom, just like a Williams Cleaner, and quite unlike the "Confederate High-Base" (actually, Charleston SC Arsenal) minie's deep U/V-shaped body-grooves.
Check the photos of the CSA Charleston Arsenal minies, at the following link.
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_tt_list.asp
Click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity.

Your bullet is shown in the "Handbook Of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges" as bullet #156B. For those of you who don't own that excellent and inexpensive ($12) civil war bullet reference-book, you can view the T&T-book's bullet #156B (and A) here:
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_tt_list.asp
Remember, click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity. You'll see that 156B is definitely your minie-bullet.

I can't see any photos in the links you provided.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Fyffytr1 wrote:
> I can't see any photos in the links you provided.

Ack! Okay, thanks for the heads-up about that. Apparently, the Civil War Bullet Database website no longer lets you link to a Search-result. I'll go Edit my reply-post to delete the non-functioning links and replace them with a link to the CWBD's Search page. Like this:
19th Century Bullet Collection - Tom Henrique

 

[Fullstock]

Sorry, but no, that's not it. Your Minie-bullet is a .58 "US Regulation" minie, produced by the manufacturer of the .58 Williams "Cleaner" bullets. The key ID-clue is that its body-grooves are square with a perfectly-flat bottom, just like a Williams Cleaner, and quite unlike the "Confederate High-Base" (actually, Charleston SC Arsenal) minie's deep U/V-shaped body-grooves.
Check the photos of the CSA Charleston Arsenal minies in the Thomas-&-Thomas book (T&T-), at the following link. Go to it, and scroll down to the Search by: T&T number, then click on the bullet number (T&T-169).
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_search.asp
Click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity.

Your bullet is shown in the "Handbook Of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges" as bullet #156B. For those of you who don't own that excellent and inexpensive ($12) civil war bullet reference-book, you can view the T&T-book's bullet #156B (and A) by clicking on that number in the T&T section, here:
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_search.asp

Remember, click on the photos for a much-enlarged view of each bullet and its base-cavity. You'll see that 156B is definitely your minie-bullet.

Interesting, never knew that the maker of the Williams bore cleaner bullets made regular mini balls as well.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Fyffytr1 wrote:
> I can't see any photos in the links you provided.

Ack! Okay, thanks for the heads-up about that. Apparently, the Civil War Bullet Database website no longer lets you link to a Search-result. I'll go Edit my reply-post to delete the non-functioning links and replace them with a link to the CWBD's Search page. Like this:
19th Century Bullet Collection - Tom Henrique

Thanks for posting the link to the civil war bullet data base. I added it to my reference material list.