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*UPDATED - IDd* T2SE Scores Brass . . . ??

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*UPDATED - ID'd* T2SE Scores Brass . . . ??

Took the T2SE out for its second trial yesterday. Was a bit frustrated w/it in the beginning, but started to get the hang of it (basics anyway) right about dark. Found a 1939 Merc dime and this non-ferrous (brass I think) piece. Any of y'all ever seen or found anything like this? I dug it on an early 20th century farmstead here in the Shenandoah Valley. Some kind of swivel harness/leather attachment? :dontknow:

UPDATE: Creskol (Rob Langdon) sent me an email and solved this one for us. Here's what Rob told me:

"The technical description for what you have is part of Brandoon Chain Swivel, (Brandoon is correct and not mis-spelled) but they are generically and more commonly referred to as a a fancy gag swivels. They are off of a harness.
I am not sure how far back they go, but my catalog of 1892 has them listed. I am sure they go back a bit further in time, at least to the mid 1800's. However, those Civil War fellows, especially from the Confederacy, were an "ingenious-out-of-necessity" sort of people. If they needed to fabricate a sword hanger and had one of these at hand, it wouldn't surprise me a bit that they would fabricate/adapt this sort of thing to fit that application. Heck, I have seen old square nails used for bit repairs, turned into screwdrivers, bent into hooks and all sorts of things.

The Brandoon's are much more scarce than other variations of the same thing, but they all served the same purpose. Here is an Ebay listing for another one (not a Brandoon) but it gives you a good idea."


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120807528319

Thanks Rob!
 

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Re: T2SE Scores Brass . . . ??

Old Stonewall,Sure has seen a lot of use! Cool lookin too!!!!!! God Bless HH Chris
 
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worldtalker said:
Old Stonewall,Sure has seen a lot of use! Cool lookin too!!!!!! God Bless HH Chris

Thanks Chris. Looks like maybe that triangle shaped piece could have been for slipping a leather strap through. ???
 
Re: T2SE Scores Brass . . . ??

Pretty sure they are horse tack related, found a couple with the leather still attached while searching for a ring around a barn site a couple years back. I've dug about 10 of em.
 
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Hunthicks said:
Pretty sure they are horse tack related, found a couple with the leather still attached while searching for a ring around a barn site a couple years back. I've dug about 10 of em.

Thanks Hunt . . . so likely late 19th, early 20th century era?
 
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Old Stonewall, There a few unique screennames here, yours is one of them!Any way,the hook comes out of the triangle,maybe one on the other side too? I,m going to follow this post,want to know what it is!! God Bless HH Chris
 
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worldtalker said:
Old Stonewall, There a few unique screennames here, yours is one of them!Any way,the hook comes out of the triangle,maybe one on the other side too? I,m going to follow this post,want to know what it is!! God Bless HH Chris

Thanks Chris! Yes, possible. I notice now that the hole at the other end is worn pretty well. Maybe it had the most use/stress and something broke on that end?
 
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Stay with the T2SE Stonewall, trust me! I have looked in my books and I am unable to ID the piece as being Civil War era, but I am agreeing with everyone and I do to think it is used on horse equipment. Interesting piece never-the-less. I posted my 5" coil finds on youtube also. Thanks and I look forward to our discussions. Thanks!

Wes
 
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Wes-N-VA said:
Stay with the T2SE Stonewall, trust me! I have looked in my books and I am unable to ID the piece as being Civil War era, but I am agreeing with everyone and I do to think it is used on horse equipment. Interesting piece never-the-less. I posted my 5" coil finds on youtube also. Thanks and I look forward to our discussions. Thanks!

Wes

Hey Wes - oh yeah, I'm gettin' to know her. I think we'll get along fine. My last find of the day, just as it was getting dark, was the Merc. It really locked on that target at about 5-6 inches down. I'll give your video a look-see.
 
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might be a bit used to makea horses mouth slobber. horses can get finicky if using an iron bit. after that they refuse to take it. brass has copper in it to make the horses mouth moist, and it tastes better to the horse.
 
Re: T2SE Scores Brass . . . ?? *UPDATED - ID'd

Updated.
 
Re: T2SE Scores Brass . . . ?? *UPDATED - ID'd

Old Stonewall said:

Awesome! :hello2:
Glad you got an ID.
Creskol is the Man. :thumbsup:
-MM-
 
Re: T2SE Scores Brass . . . ?? *UPDATED - ID'd

ModernMiner said:
Old Stonewall said:

Awesome! :hello2:
Glad you got an ID.
Creskol is the Man. :thumbsup:
-MM-

Yes he is. I've told him he needs to write a book.
 

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