"Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

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"Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

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With near 3 years of non dowsing weather behind us,I notice that the skeptics are increasing in volume. They stumble onto the dowsing section, race into the bedroom and knock off a pair of the ball and chains clothes hangers.
Bending them into shape, they gaze fiercely at the ground and when nothing happens, unmindful of the fact that they had rules to learn and follow , immediately was born another Skeptic. Max

 

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[aarthrj3811]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Hey SWR...This your Claim...."I am POSITIVE that the electronics in this fraud crap does not work. The electronics (or lack of electronics)
WILL NOT transmit a resonating frequency 1 inch, let alone 1 mile.
The electronics (or lack of electronics) WILL NOT sniff out floating gold ions." -Me
Here is Carls Claim....I haven't claimed that a signal cannot propagate through the ground, since I know that it can, and I know that it can be detected with proper equipment. I've done this out to about 60 feet or so, with more powerful signal generators, and have even posted that experiment on these forums. So the 100-foot number is being very, very, very generous. It's probably more like a foot or two for this particular product. What does NOT happen is a so-called "signal line," and I will pay dearly for someone to prove me wrong on this.
Some one is wrong...Art

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

SWR link[/quote]Wild claims of finding cached by mythical (yes Max, including Jesuits) have nothing to do with it!
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Like the mythical legendary lost Jesuit mine of Tayopa? Lost in antiquity /shadowy Legend 400 years ago but never found until recently. Hmm yes it does exist and I have found and own it, not through statistics, but by simple logic backed up with spatial visualization. Perhaps dowsing didnt figure into it, but closely allied factors did.

Tropical Tramp

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

So you own it? Great, let's see it.

If you don't have a picture of it, then don't make any claims until you do. We're skeptics, remember? A scan of a bookcover doesn't mean anything.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

=af1733 So you own it? Great, let's see it.
If you don't have a picture of it, then don't make any claims until you do. We're skeptics, remember? A scan of a bookcover doesn't mean anything.
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That is a two page double side printed document, but since you have shown problems with reading English in the past, and since it is printed in Spanish---..

I have posted pictures in the past in accordance with swr's wishes, only to have him call me a "liar" and to have him then state that no posted picture is proof. sooo?

Incidentally, I agree with him that no posted pictures could be proof since he downloaded a group of pictures from another sites as his---??

Do you really want me to swamp this thread with pictures?? If not, go to Treasure legends here in TN scroll down to Tayopa and have fun. or go to www.historyhuntersinternational.org same thing Tayopa.

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Operational definitions are inherently difficult — arguably, even impossible — to apply to mental entities, because these latter are generally understood to be accessible only to the individual who experiences them and are therefore not independently verifiable."
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Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl
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Tropical Tramp

 

[ClonedSIM]

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This is a picture of the lost Jesuit mine of Tayopa? Ummm, I don't suppose you have a shot of the mine with the treasure inside, do you? Because that is something I would love to see, as opposed to a twenty-year-old snapshot of a mountainside.

Do you understand? A picture of the mine with the treasure? The lost Jesuit mine? That you claim to own?

Or......have you not actually been there? Maybe it's on that treasure map you wanted to sell. Maybe you should look there.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

[quote authorThis is a picture of the lost Jesuit mine of Tayopa? Ummm, I don't suppose you have a shot of the mine with the treasure inside, do you? Because that is something I would love to see, as opposed to a twenty-year-old snapshot of a mountainside.
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hahhahahaha that is both a funny and a sorry statement. What do you expect to see of a mine that was has been lost for 400 years? One that litterally hundreds have searched for in vain, many dying in the process. You are obviously a city born and raised guy since you can't see what is in front of you.
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Poor try my friend, close to the third strike. I will not discuss it any further in here , go to the Tayopa site - "unless" the other's in here wish it, then we can open a new lead.
"Is the discovery of Tayopa associated with the para-normal or dowsing"?

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Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl
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Tropical Tramp

 

[Peg Leg]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

You know I thought that this section would be different than the SHIPWRECK section but it does not appear to be so.
Everyone TALKS about finding Treasure but what type of Treasure are they talking about.
I for one HAVE FOUND REAL TREASURE in the form of Gold coins and SILVER and have posted scans of a number of gold trinkets that the Indians had beaten into trinkets but there was part of the trinkets that showed the coins. In all I recovered no less than 29 Gold coins and Gold trinkets and a bunch of SILVER that had been melted into clumps. I even recovered a 16 ounce ingot of silver that had 3 spanish stamp marks on the bottom and guess what I NEVER used a Metal Detector. I dowsed the area from a map.
I am now going to test my skill in locating SHIPWRECKS as soon as I get the charts/maps that I will need.
Yea, it is hard to believe and some never will but I say SO WHAT-IT WORKS FOR ME.
You can go to any part of this TH forum or even on this DOWSING section and read what I have to say and all the other crap that was said ABOUT ME.
I really could care less about how this was done and have NEVER read a book about how you should do this or any TECH papers about Force Fields WHATEVER?
In the CHARTS section you will see what I discribe as the way that I do what I do.
Do not ask for photos. IF YOU WANT TO SEE PHOTOS CHECK OUT THE SECTION ON SHIPWRECKS I have a photos you casn look at.
Have a great day.
PEG LEG

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

[quote authorThis is a picture of the lost Jesuit mine of Tayopa? Ummm, I don't suppose you have a shot of the mine with the treasure inside, do you? Because that is something I would love to see, as opposed to a twenty-year-old snapshot of a mountainside.
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hahhahahaha that is both a funny and a sorry statement. What do you expect to see of a mine that was has been lost for 400 years? One that litterally hundreds have searched for in vain, many dying in the process. You are obviously a city born and raised guy since you can't see what is in front of you.

Tropical Tramp

If by city-born and raised, you mean "able to smell a skunk" then you're right! First you claim that you have not only found but also own the lost Jesuit mine, then you tell me you don't really know where it is, and haven't actually seen it.

"Is the discovery of Tayopa associated with the para-normal or dowsing"?

Tropical Tramp

Apparently neither, since it's still lost....

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

So you own it? Great, let's see it.

If you don't have a picture of it, then don't make any claims until you do. We're skeptics, remember? A scan of a bookcover doesn't mean anything.

So AF....you claim to be a skeptic, one of the "many" followers of Mr. Amazing, Himself. A Seeker of the "Truth".

I'm skeptical of your claim......show me a picture of you, in all your skeptical regalia. Now remember....I'm skeptical....so a scan of your avatar doesn't mean anything. I want to see the REAL clown.


Judy

LOL! You first...

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Fine, fine. Art can't do a simple dowsing rod experiment but you want to see what I look like for some reason. I'll see if I can track a pic down.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

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=Peg Leg link=topic=I say SO WHAT-IT WORKS FOR ME
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HI pegger, welcome, I see that you have it down correctly, "so what"? I agree 100%.
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The one thing that this series of posts have, is that it is far better than sitting static in front of the boob tube and there are laughs here every minute.

Incidentally I enjoy your posts in the other site as I have posted. keep em coming in here also.
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Operational definitions are inherently difficult — arguably, even impossible — to apply to mental entities, because these latter are generally understood to be accessible only to the individual who experiences them and are therefore not independently verifiable."
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Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl
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Tropical Tramp

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

I'm over in mug-shots waiting for you, Judy....

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

I'm over in mug-shots waiting for you, Judy....

Thank you, AF....
I'm dowsing it as we speak.......


Judy

Whatever you do, don't dig up your finds and post a picture of them here!!!

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

I'm over in mug-shots waiting for you, Judy....

Thank you, AF....
I'm dowsing it as we speak.......


Judy

Whatever you do, don't dig up your finds and post a picture of them here!!!

..Not to worry.
'Sides....I'm too busy digging around for some new batteries.


Judy

hmmmmmmm...batteries for what......

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

[=af1733 linkIf by city-born and raised, you mean "able to smell a skunk" then you're right! First you claim that you have not only found but also own the lost Jesuit mine, then you tell me you don't really know where it is, and haven't actually seen it.
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The key word is open, not found. Ever heard of an environmentaly, historicaly, archaeologicaly sensitive site? One needs multiple permits first before touching a single rock, or expect to be intimately acquainted with Hairy huge Pedro in a Mexican jail.

Incidentally where have i even hinted at not having found it ?

The submitted proof apparently was sufficient , along with my other exploration data, to the Explorers Club to allow me to be voted as a member .by my peers.

www.explorers.org

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[aarthrj3811]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Hey af1733...If you can't find a photo of yourself I know where there is one...But...I don't no if I can post it on T-Net....Art

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Okay, Realde. You have a 20-year-old snapshot of a mountainside, an explorer's club membership, and that's about it. You have a mine you haven't found, but have somehow opened, that you can't touch even though you own it............

Well, I'm convinced.....

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Hey af1733...If you can't find a photo of yourself I know where there is one...But...I don't no if I can post it on T-Net....Art

Oh, this should be fun. Knock yourself out, Art. What's the worst that will happen, you might get a post deleted?

 

[cptbil]

Re: "Wallah another Skeptic is Born"

Realde Tayopa:
Here's a "legal" question for you .
If someone challenges you for claiming the mine and your "Permission/grant " to own a mine has the WRONG SPELLING/name of/for the mine!
AND!
His has the right spelling and therefore, the Correct name !
What or who would the court give the Claim to ?
This was kind of a joke between us, but now, it could cause you some problems!
For, if someone comes along with the
Correct Spelling ?
AND!
I CAN PROVE THE CORRECT SPELLING !
Do you think that this, error! Would place your claim in jeopardy?
If you would like to have the Correct Spelling ....
AND!
AS I have no intendions of trying to claim the Mine!
I think that as a fellow TH'er,
It would be in your best interests to call me !
AND!
Immediately,
You'll see why there is such confusion!
I do not want to email the name for obvious reasons!