Was on the wrong end of a butt kicking....

[goldencoin]

Hello

Went to the local fair grounds with two other MD'ers from the south. They welcomed me in and we all set about MD'ing. I had a DFX against their Explorers. They started coming up with silver and wheats my dfx ws skipping over. They even had me run my MD over their holes and it didn't make a sound. By the time i left, they had about 10-12 silvers between them, most mercs, and a walker. I ended up with 2 bucks in clad, an earring that i can only hope is silver or gold, a clown token, and a medalion i'm pretty sure is silver


Right now i'm thinking about getting a bigger coil or tweaking a program...

Any ideas?

HH
-GC

 

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[CarolinaDigs]

Looks like you still came away with some good digs

 

[M-Squared]

I've heard numerous stories that the Explorer finds silvers that the dfx passes over. Yours isn't the first account. I am seriously considering upgrading my 1992 Spectrum for an Explorer. But we shall see..

Is that a Timberland footprint I see on your posterior? Heheheh!


HH from MM

 

[goldencoin]

Is that a Timberland footprint I see on your posterior? Heheheh!


HH from MM

first time i laughed all day

HH
-GC

 

[Dman]

Nice finds

 

[ModernMiner]

Geez, I can't imagine what I'm missing then with my Tesoro if you are getting your butt kicked with a DFX.
Looks like you did fine though.
Congrats,
MM

 

[Dreamweaver43]

Trade in that DFX for an explorer.....

 

[Mike Silver -gold]

Golden coin, I hunt with a DFX, and my good friend has an Explorer. I seem to get a little more silver than he does. Not always, but enough that there is no way I would trade. For one thing He has a hard time pinpointing. Mike.

 

[Tin Nugget]

How long have you had the DFX and how often do you use it? I ask this because I know two Explorer owners that when they first got them got beat out constantly. As they got more experienced with them that changed. Another friend of mine has a DFX and he is very good with it. We all go hunting together fairly often. sometimes the DFX turns up better finds and sometimes the Explorer's turn up better finds. They used to do the depth comparison thing and frankly there was little difference if any. How much of that was due to experience, proper coils for the ground conditions etc. I don't know. In my opinion they are both great detectors. Oh, one more thing. Unless we get into some freaky ground conditions my MXT stands up well with them which is a good thing because if they were super detectors then I would have to get one and learn, but I have tried them both and just don't have the patience it would take to become adept with one.

 

[Skrimpy]

I have been doing this and had the DFX about a year and have not found ANY silver...yet. I have found plenty of one peice buttons and a couple of buckles and some clad. I have tested on silver and gold and the machine does respond. Not sure but my guess is that the program you are running is discriminating out the signals for one reason or another. Could be iron in the ground with the silver or maybe the silver itself. Get yourself some silver and build a test gard and juice that sucker up to see how deep you can get a silver quarter to ring up while keeping the machine balanced. Eventually you will start finding the silver just like your buddies Explorer machines.

 

[history hunter]

I'm sure I have probably been missing coins with my Teknetics 8000. Lately, the last month, I have been finding only clad and wheat backs. My det. has been known to go down 9'' to 10'' for a dime every once in a while. I hope you can do something to help with your's. If I don't get a new one some day mine will probably turn to dust and blow away from old age. HH

 

[Ridley]

What program were you using? How do you set the DFX.

Do you use tone ID?

My DFX finds lots of silver. You can't mistake the tone for silver.

Maybe we can tweak your settings.



Ridley

 

[psgen]

There are some really nice programs available for XLT's & DFX's out there..... Try typing DFX programs in your search bar and you'd be amazed what will come up........Program a few into your detector and try them out......find one that works for you and save it under one of the available user slots and kick butt......

Psgen

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

I think detectors should not be programed one way or another to find different things. Your detector should sound off the same way for everything and you as a person should then decide if you want to dig it or not. The detectors of today have too many wiz bang features that only confuse people. It is my opinion that wiz bang is only a selling feature to attract people to something different. Companies should go back to selling good analog detectors. My XL-PRO consistantly finds all coins and relics and junk at all depths. I found numerous coins at 9 and 10 inches deep. Your target Id is the most important feature. Programs are not needed! Chris

 

[JerV3]

If your running a stock Dfx program your gonna get out hunted.

This machine takes a long time to master. I have 6 yrs experience with it and know it front to back.

It is extremely rare if I get out hunted by anyone with any type of detector. I can find old coins still in the hardest hit parks and area's.

If your new to this unit it's gonna be a yr or 2 before you start to understand it. I've seen people use the dfx for 10 hrs and say it's the worst detector they ever used.

It's not for everyone. But if you can learn it and master it. The possibilities are endless. It is a super machine. You have to take a ton of time to learn it.

Use it alot and good luck with everything. If your not a member already on dfxonly.com go there you'll learn a ton.

HH Jer

 

[Boobydoo]

Kind of depressing huh... but I know you, you will get it sussed out and come back like a champ. Good luck bro J!!

Smiles!
BDoo

 

[Paul in WA]

I would recomend the book "Digging Deeper with the DFX" by Jeff Foster. I would also recomend the 1400DD coil.

Paul

 

[Captn SE]

GC, I'm sorry that you couldn't hear those silver coins and wheats in the ground. It's no surprise to me. I can't imagine that you're discriminating out those coins because they are very high in conductivity. Guys who want to find deep silver coins (6-9") here in CA are trading their DFX's in for Explorers. The ground here is highly mineralized, and the DFX's aren't getting good depth; only up to 6". I think many of them just haven't figured out all the setting with the DFX. Heck, I bought an SE back in January. It hasn't taken me very long to learn it, considering I've already found over 300 silver coins and 1300 wheaties so far this year in heavily hunted parks with it. My question to you is, do you want to let another year or two go by before you figure out the DFX, or do you want to start finding some silver in say a month or two??

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[DFX-SE Gregg]

OK first of all you received some great responses from some dfx users. I want to tell you something about the explorer.....If you think you are just going to sell the dfx and everything is going to be rosy think again! Here is what I would do go through some of the sites where they use explorers. You will be stunned at how many explorer users are having a ton of trouble! For instance I went through the last 20 posts on the findmall.com explorer classroom the other day and 10 of the last 20 posts if you opened and read them described frustration over having an explorer. From poor pinpointing to falsing in wet grass and so on.

So before you just decide to change....what were you doing >>>>>>>>>>

Which coil
Were you in a pre set program that is for beginners?
Have you ever dug deeper than 5.5.....if not it is either user error or a bad coil or improper settings!

Sorry your stating 5.5 as your deepest depth tells me something....and it is not good! As I mentioned on another post you put up...same discussion when I make changes as simple as PAG-3, AC sens-70, I am getting 7.5 inches with small coil. Slight changes would obviously work better...but only if they were the right changes! Even if you just jack everything up like pag-4 ac sens 75 may not have been the right move...example>>>

I was hunting by an expressway with an entrance to the downtown area that connected to a park. I started hunting the pathway...noticed I was having trouble with threshold from emi from train tracks, light poles and surrounding interference.....I made an adjustment! I reduced my ac sens. to 62 went on to find 13 coins in 13 minutes! Hope you understand what I am trying to say! Good luck! Gregg

GC, I'm sorry that you couldn't hear those silver coins and wheats in the ground. It's no surprise to me. I can't imagine that you're discriminating out those coins because they are very high in conductivity. Guys who want to find deep silver coins (6-9") here in CA are trading their DFX's in for Explorers. The ground here is highly mineralized, and the DFX's aren't getting good depth; only up to 6". I think many of them just haven't figured out all the setting with the DFX. Heck, I bought an SE back in January. It hasn't taken me very long to learn it, considering I've already found over 300 silver coins and 1300 wheaties so far this year in heavily hunted parks with it. My question to you is, do you want to let another year or two go by before you figure out the DFX, or do you want to start finding some silver in say a month or two??

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[goldencoin]

Thanks for all the quick responses. I was using a stock coil (9.5) with coins and deep silver programs. The soil was very dry and rocky. It sounds like i need to do alot of learning, i'll reggister for DFX only and see what i need to learn. I will be on Tnet still, so don't worry

Thanks

HH
-GC