Weekly Round Up- Regiment of Artillerist, Tiny silver, and 2nd SC!

[Patriot Relics]

Hey guys,

Got to dig a few times this past week as the overgrowth on some of my honey holes starts to die back with the colder weather. While I've pounded most of these sites, it never hurts to seek out the sections that you know everyone else have been avoiding...poison ivy, briers, etc...the areas where the only way to swing is crawling on all fours

Needless to say the strategy has been paying off. One of my favorites didn't look like much out of the ground. Standard cuff sized flat button...but a bit of careful cleaning with cold peroxide and a q-tip reveal what was hiding underneath- 3rd Regiment of Artillerist cuff (1811-1813). I've dug the later "CORPS" varieties but the script A was definitely a surprise.



Here's the coat version from Albert's



The next button is still a bit of a mystery. Construction is certainly 18th century, copper based metal with silver plate, and a braised loop shank. In the right light I can see a script 2 at the center with 2 concentric rings around the border. Possibly a 2nd SC officer button, but I'm still working to confirm. At any rate an interesting dig that's driving me crazy.



A bit further from the site I dug another button- 20th century stamped copper depicting 2 men sword fighting. Props to fyrffytr1 for the ID



Did score one nice 35mm dandy button



Working the area did produce a few other flat buttons that range from 1800-1830.



Any site with buttons usual means coins are nearby as well. The first target came in slamming in 18khz on the XP. Unfortunately due to brick and roots, recovery was challenging...as evident from the shovel nick

Still pretty cool...I'll be it a random Swedish coin- 1/12 Skilling 1808



Also pulled a nice tiny 1839 half dime from the same area



Among the other digs was a pewter knee buckle, lead ingot, and lock plate.



A question for all the construction material experts- what were these copper nails with the square ends used for? I always find them among the old brick ruins at my early sites.



Last an interesting piece of hand blown glass- suspect it was once a 18th century chandelier ornament.



That about covers it, another productive week in the lowcountry. Thanks for looking and good luck out there

 

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[Patriot Relics]

Here are two 18th century decanter stoppers I recovered from water. HH-
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Thanks for the reference picture Keith, definitely a match to the example on the right.

 

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[Carolina Tom]

Congrats on the nice finds. I’m a coin guy, so the seated coin looks mighty good to me.

Best of luck to you sir!

 

[Patriot Relics]

Congrats on the nice finds. I’m a coin guy, so the seated coin looks mighty good to me.

Best of luck to you sir!

Thanks Tom, hopefully a few more silvers in the dirt for you as well before we wrap up 2017

 

[gheenoe78]

Nice finds as always brotha! That coin is pretty sweet. The stories it could tell...

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[joeyfresh]

The artillery button is awesome and I'm curious what your other button is. The copper skilling is cool. I found two silver ones last year at two different site....what are the odds??

 

[Calabash Digger]

great finds!

 

[Patriot Relics]

Nice finds as always brotha! That coin is pretty sweet. The stories it could tell...

Thanks bud, hopefully we can link up with weekend

 

[Patriot Relics]

The artillery button is awesome and I'm curious what your other button is. The copper skilling is cool. I found two silver ones last year at two different site....what are the odds??

Still working to confirm the unknown flat button, I swear I see a script 2, but it's just not definitive. Still haven't been able to track down any officer varieties of the 2nd SC for comparison.

 

[Palmetto Pony]

Great finds Jon. Kinda makes up a little I guess for all of your lost huntin' time due to work. BTW, those nails with square heads on both ends....that's so you can hammer them in from either side of the wood!

 

[Patriot Relics]

great finds!

Thanks calabash, good luck hunting in Gtown

 

[Patriot Relics]

Great finds Jon. Kinda makes up a little I guess for all of your lost huntin' time due to work. BTW, those nails with square heads on both ends....that's so you can hammer them in from either side of the wood!

Thanks John, I only find this design (square heads on both sides) in the copper nail varieties.

 

[sgtled3533]

Love the half dime! Good recovery [emoji106]🏻

 

[Patriot Relics]

Love the half dime! Good recovery [emoji106]��

Thanks Sgt, such a small coin

 

[Palmetto Pony]

Jon I may have found something that helps explain the double square heads. As peruna pointed out, copper nails were used in areas of high moisture exposure, hence their common use in boat building. They weren't necessarily used in a traditional fashion as a steel nails would be, e.g. pound it in and be done. Copper nails were installed and went through the pieces, with the end extending out the opposite side. One common practice is to then place a washer like copper disc (called a rove) over the protruding end and then peen the nail down. Basically it would become a bucked copper rivet. I don't think it would be a stretch to say the same general method could be used, though without the rove, and just peen the opposite end of the nail thereby cinching the pieces of wood together also, just without the rove. Just a possible answer, not necessarily THE answer.

 

[treblehunter]

Very nice hunt, nice finds!

 

[Patriot Relics]

Jon I may have found something that helps explain the double square heads. As peruna pointed out, copper nails were used in areas of high moisture exposure, hence their common use in boat building. They weren't necessarily used in a traditional fashion as a steel nails would be, e.g. pound it in and be done. Copper nails were installed and went through the pieces, with the end extending out the opposite side. One common practice is to then place a washer like copper disc (called a rove) over the protruding end and then peen the nail down. Basically it would become a bucked copper rivet. I don't think it would be a stretch to say the same general method could be used, though without the rove, and just peen the opposite end of the nail thereby cinching the pieces of wood together also, just without the rove. Just a possible answer, not necessarily THE answer.

Thanks John, certainly makes sense that they were used as make shift rivets. Also seem to find them among the brick foundations, but who knows

 

[Patriot Relics]

Very nice hunt, nice finds!

Thanks Treb

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Fantastic relic and coin hunt!

 

[Donnie B from VA]

Awesome finds!