What about these jewels!!!

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Aquired the other day,,,, what does everyone think of these,,, came out of old collection, just could not pass on these,,,,the fluted point is polished on the edges about one and half inches on both sides and top,,,,

thanks for lookin,,,


arthur
 

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Well, since you asked. The long fluted piece looks bogus as hell, which makes the other suspect as well. I would give them more than just casual scrutiny. If you aren't confident in your ability to assess the authenticity, I wouldn't hesitate sending them out to get another opinion.
 
I'll second what neanderthal said.

At least from the pic, the drilling on the gorget looks correct though.
 
if you havent heard enough,i thought reproductions before i read the other opinions.send those off to a well known authenticator.hope we are all wrong.thx for sharing the pics.
 
What is that on the right, a Cumberclovis? They look too good to be true. Hopefully you didn't pay authentic prices. If one is fake I'd be highly suspicious of all of them, including the bannerstones. Sorry, just my opinion.
 
Wow, How do I become an internet authenticator?
 
SoIll said:
Wow, How do I become an internet authenticator?

lol, not me ! That gorget looks great. Nice finds!
 
I wondered about the grey point but they are going to the owensboro ky. show july 31st to get checked out,,,,, thanks for your expert knowledge,,,,,,,,,,
 
thirty7 said:
What is that on the right, a Cumberclovis? They look too good to be true. Hopefully you didn't pay authentic prices. If one is fake I'd be highly suspicious of all of them, including the bannerstones. Sorry, just my opinion.
,,,,,,,,I did not now there was any bannerstones pictured?????? I can tell I am dealing with true pros here,,, you do mean gorgets right????????
 
SoIll said:
Wow, How do I become an internet authenticator?
its easy to become an internet authenticator.all you have to do is be on the internet,once you are on the internet you can be an expert at anything!lol.kind of like sleeping at the holiday inn.did not mean any disrespect artzstuff1.i am not an expert even though i am on the internet.i was only giving an opinion.hope those are authentic,they sure are beautiful pieces.
 
artzstuff1 said:
thirty7 said:
What is that on the right, a Cumberclovis? They look too good to be true. Hopefully you didn't pay authentic prices. If one is fake I'd be highly suspicious of all of them, including the bannerstones. Sorry, just my opinion.
,,,,,,,,I did not now there was any bannerstones pictured?????? I can tell I am dealing with true pros here,,, you do mean gorgets right???????

yeah, I meant to say gorget, like I said just my opinion. If you're looking for experts,why not take your old collection pieces to an authenticator. I'm not an expert or pro but personally I'd make sure ' museum quality ' pieces like those two paleo points already had coa's before buying them.
 
I bought them all at a yard sale from some old blind woman for $20.00 ,,,,,( bannerstones and all!!!!),,,,She gave me the cumberfolsom because she liked my voice!!!!,,,,,ALRIGHTY THEN,, Better get these back to the museum,,,,see ya
 
i like them.ive found a few and those are great.ill give ya 25 for them/thanks for sharing them.they are pretty. jamey
 
jamey said:
i like them.ive found a few and those are great.ill give ya 25 for them/thanks for sharing them.they are pretty. jamey

Thanks for the offer jamey I will keep that in mind,,,,

thanks for lookin at my stuff and the kind words,,,


arthur
 
artzstuff1 said:
I bought them all at a yard sale from some old blind woman for $20.00 ,,,,,( bannerstones and all!!!!),,,,She gave me the cumberfolsom because she liked my voice!!!!,,,,,ALRIGHTY THEN,, Better get these back to the museum,,,,see ya

Hello
No one means any offense. I think thay are very nice and hope that they turn out to be the real thing for you.What a great $20.00 investment. I would suggest showing one item at a time at the show for evaluation to diffrent experts. See if Dan Stroud is there or someone like him who has handled some of the largest of collections So in case one does not pass it wont destroy the opportunity of the others. Please be kinder than we were and let us know how it turns out ok?
My bet is on the one rounded gorget over the butterfly looking one and the tan clovis over the long fluted cumberland.
Keep us updated
Great $20.00 finds!
HH
 
artzstuff1 said:
I bought them all at a yard sale from some old blind woman for $20.00 ,,,,,( bannerstones and all!!!!),,,,She gave me the cumberfolsom because she liked my voice!!!!,,,,,ALRIGHTY THEN,, Better get these back to the museum,,,,see ya

You asked for our opinion, so I gave you mine. Maybe it was a bit harsh, but it's just an opinion. As for riding me over a mistake, whatever man, knock yourself out. I can tell you why I think those points are reproductions if you want, or you could use the ignore user feature if I really upset you that much. Prove me / us wrong and I'll apologize.
 
i think you got a great deal no matter what,i have a tip of a point that reminds me of your gray one.i found it and it looks like yours.really.i know mine are real and yours look pretty good.thanks again for sharing them.keep em.i sold one of my better points and wish i didnt now jamey
 
jamey said:
i think you got a great deal no matter what,i have a tip of a point that reminds me of your gray one.i found it and it looks like yours.really.i know mine are real and yours look pretty good.thanks again for sharing them.keep em.i sold one of my better points and wish i didnt now jamey


Oh I will probably keep them,,, I am sure there are some more experts out there lurkin,,,,

art
 
thirty7 said:
artzstuff1 said:
I bought them all at a yard sale from some old blind woman for $20.00 ,,,,,( bannerstones and all!!!!),,,,She gave me the cumberfolsom because she liked my voice!!!!,,,,,ALRIGHTY THEN,, Better get these back to the museum,,,,see ya

You asked for our opinion, so I gave you mine. Maybe it was a bit harsh, but it's just an opinion. As for riding me over a mistake, whatever man, knock yourself out. I can tell you why I think those points are reproductions if you want, or you could use the ignore user feature if I really upset you that much. Prove me / us wrong and I'll apologize.


Dont let it get ya down there dude aint no big deal,,, bannerstone ,,,,gorget whatever just rocks to me !!!! just something to hang on the wall,,,,

dont know that much about them really just started this rock stuff a couple weeks ago!!!! I will trade them for something anyway!!!

thanks

arthur
 

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