Which state?

[naturegirl]

I'm curious, which state has the most evidence of early inhabitants? Not that it's a contest or anything, it seems like the eastern part of the country has an awful lot, or is that just a reflection of membership and participation in this forum? Which state has the most oldest? Which state has the most diveristy that might reflect natural material, or traded material? I know our state boundries are brand new in the time-line, but since most members identify thier state, it made me curious.Anyone know?

naturegirl

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

whew..here goes...

i don't believe that the finds posted by eastern people are indicative of population numbers, but a dichotomy between what it seems the government allows...east of the rockies.
in the southwest...if you are found with a shovel, a probe, a metal detector, or any device for hunting/recovery of artifacts, on any native american site,not on private property, you are arrested...no talk, no arguing you are a citizen and can do what you want..go straight to jail.

sorry for the run on sentence.

 

[Th3rty7]

Well a 17,000 to 21,000 yr old solutrean blade was found in va, that's hard to beat. Solutean culture was predominant in France and Spain, which is very interesting imo because the hypothesis is that during the ice age europeans crossed the Atlantic icebridge to what is present day Virginia.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Anasazi would be my guess.

 

[mamabear]

Well a 17,000 to 21,000 yr old solutrean blade was found in va, that's hard to beat. Solutean culture was predominant in France and Spain, which is very interesting imo because the hypothesis is that during the ice age europeans crossed the Atlantic icebridge to what is present day Virginia.

where did you read this? would like to see the article. very interesting.

 

[Th3rty7]

Another site in Va, the cactus hill site is dated back to 16,900 bc, archaeologists found unfluted lance points beneath the paleo strata.

 

[SoIll]

It's all about the rivers.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Another site in Va, the cactus hill site is dated back to 15,000 bc, archaeologists found unfluted lance points beneath the paleo strata.

You really can't go by the dates they say.

 

[jamey]

the new river in west virgina is one of the oldest rivers in the world ive read so if i could hunt there i probally could find some of the oldest tools i bet,they probally droped some in va. on there way there. jamey

 

[Th3rty7]

Well a 17,000 to 21,000 yr old solutrean blade was found in va, that's hard to beat. Solutean culture was predominant in France and Spain, which is very interesting imo because the hypothesis is that during the ice age europeans crossed the Atlantic icebridge to what is present day Virginia.

where did you read this? would like to see the article. very interesting.

There was a good show on discovery I think called " What happened to the Ice Man " it got me interested in the topic. There is alot of info on the net about the Solutean culture and the cactus hill site. There are other pre clovis sites in n. america, the Meadowcroft site near Pittsburg which is a rock shelter with tools and spearpoints similiar to the pre clovis implements found in va., those were radiocarbon dated to 16,000.

 

[Th3rty7]

Anasazi would be my guess.

The earliest traces of the Anasazi culture is around 1500 bc I think, they were farmers and made pottery, not really that long ago.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

clovis is in new mexico guys....the first find..that is why they call it clovis.

 

[Th3rty7]

clovis is in new mexico guys....the first find..that is why they call it clovis.

there are different estimates but most archaeologists believe the paleo culture began 13,000bc, according to wiki.

 

[Th3rty7]

here's an interesting article on the Topper site in Sc, another pre clovis site, where spearpoints and tools were found beneath the paleo layer.


http://www.archaeology.org/9907/newsbriefs/clovis.html

 

[Kentucky Kache]

And I repeat, you can't trust the excepted dates.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

And I repeat, you can't trust the excepted dates.

 

[Th3rty7]

And I repeat, you can't trust the excepted dates.

yeah, you said that already, why? I trust radiocarboned data and archaeologists more than word of mouth. Why do you think the Anasazi culture is the oldest? I'm aware that science isn't perfect. Why shouldn't I trust the most advanced technology and the experts opinions?

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

radio carbon is suspect..something to do with making the sky glow in the dark at trinity.

 

[quito]

"Why do you think the Anasazi culture is the oldest?"

I don't believe anyone hinted that Anasazi is the oldest culture Thirty. You may wanna re-read that post.

Joel

 

[Kentucky Kache]

There are indeed problems with radiocarbon dating, If you want to look them up.

I'm totally guessing about the Anasazi being the oldest. I don't know which is the oldest, but I do know that Anasazi is extremely old.