Who Dunnit ?

[uniface]

Sorry. Picture distorts when posted. But thumbnail enlarges.

Ohio. Blue Coshocton. Hybrid ? Holding contextual info to avoid influencing opinions.

 

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[Garscale]

It's a really nice and well made Clovis. He had a little trouble getting the flute to run and had to set it up a couple times resulting in a deep concavity . All the deltas look great for Clovis.

 

[scruggs]

THAT IS A BEAUTY! CONGRATULATIONS!

 

[dirstscratcher]

Looks almost new to me, no nicks, no apparent patina. I've never seen pure blue Coshocton. Maybe Metin Erin?

 

[Tdog]

Can't help but notice the flake removals diving into the flute channel on the right side.

 

[Garscale]

What does the other side look like?

 

[uniface]

Will photograph it tomorrow for you.

 

[Garscale]

Can't help but notice the flake removals diving into the flute channel on the right side.

I see that too but not really unusual. That flute was at least the third attempt on that side. There was a thick spot he couldnt get the flute to run under so he had to trim it again from the side. I'm not proclaiming it was old but whoever made it did so very cloviseske.

 

[ToddsPoint]

Put it under a stereo microscope and you'll be able to tell in 5 seconds if it's old or new. I knapped for 22 yrs. and lean towards new. Gary

 

[joshuaream]

I was thinking cast of something. Sort of reminds me of the Lamb Site points, but isn't one of those.

 

[Garscale]

I lean toward cast or new as well because of no visible mineralization. I'm not familiar with the characteristics of that material though. All I'm saying is , that side is made exactly correct for Clovis as far as I can tell.

 

[uniface]

 

[Garscale]

This Texas Clovis owned by my friend Justin had exactly the same fluting issue.

 

[Garscale]

I see nothing that would indicate anything other than clovis.

 

[uniface]

Impressive knowledge and insight, guys. It's a cast made & gifted by Matt Rowe -- not sure if it's his own or the museum's.

 

[Older The Better]

To the original quest who dun it? it was certainly aliens, ancient man clearly wasn’t smart enough to figure out how to craft such a point and would have perished without knowledge from the stars… seriously though I’m enjoying this thread, a little higher level of analysis, I don’t have any real life experience with paleo so I can’t add much but that base just keeps whispering dalton to me but not the rest… some transitional dalton Clovis hybrid?

 

[uniface]

What threw me about it was the same thing that threw me about the re-based Clovis I thought must be a Redstone -- re-basing or knapping problem workaround at the basal edge changes the whole "look." A characteristic I'd assumed (not being a points guy re. paleo) was primary was actually variable.

That's why I posted it, and thanks for the education !

 

[Buckleberry]

That's a cool piece, I hunt Coshocton County frequently and have never found such a large piece of Blue Coshocton, must've been pretty rare archaically, but not in the paleo.