Windows 7 upgrade

Shortstack · Nov 3, 2009

mrs.oroblanco said:
Over the years, we have found several good (rephrase - thought was good) email programs, that was fairly benign (none completely ad free), and have joined. Most either crashed and burned, or decided to charge a fee for their email services. Anyone remember "freeyellow"? It was unadorned with dancing characters and you didn't have to click on "skip this" forty times - it had a decent sized mailbox, and they promised they would stay that way forever. Forever turned out to be about 2 years, and then they decided that, since we had been around with them for quite awhile, certainly we wouldn't mind paying a nominal fee each month - $20.00 a month. They were wrong.

I think the ads support the sites.

B

Well, I think that the amount of money I pay AT&T each month for tele and DSL charges ought to rate an ad free email.

mrs.oroblanco · Nov 3, 2009

I have a yahoo account, a gmail account, and a hotmail account.

You are right - the gmail account doesn't have anything dancing around. But it must have a cookie, or tracking device that my Norton doesn't catch, because, every once in awhile - it will pop up with an extra google toolbar with a bunch of options. I have turned it off - this has been an issue only since I got this new 'puter (Vista).

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Shortstack · Nov 3, 2009

DANG, I miss Outlook Express. A POX on Microsoft for getting away from it.

Tnmountains · Nov 3, 2009

I just like Mac. I use a big seperate plug in Lacy Back up drive and keep two copies of everything.Never lost any files yet. Have the snow lepard but not installed it. No hiccups. Could not ever imagine going back to a windows based system. Its weird not having to de-frag all the time and run virus programs. I enjoy running multiple programs with a couple browsers open. Think I am going to use that split screen thing so I can see two pages side by side :sign13:

To each their own and what ever makes you happy :icon_sunny:

TnMtns

dpitt8 · Nov 4, 2009

TnMountains said:
I just like Mac. I use a big seperate plug in Lacy Back up drive and keep two copies of everything.Never lost any files yet. Have the snow lepard but not installed it. No hiccups. Could not ever imagine going back to a windows based system. Its weird not having to de-frag all the time and run virus programs. I enjoy running multiple programs with a couple browsers open. Think I am going to use that split screen thing so I can see two pages side by side
To each their own and what ever makes you happy
TnMtns

My experience w/ a Mac
---my first one lasted 5 years with no viruses and only crashed twice and that was in the last half year
---my next Mac was gotten used and has lasted 4 years for me and is still going (just is too slow now so its backup)
---my current Mac is about 3 years old now (1st gen Mac mini) and is still going strong w/ Snow Leopard on it. Haven't noticed it deleting any files.

And all 3 of those have never had a virus. And the 2 times the 1st Mac crashed I just had to put in the recovery disk and all was happy again. Haven't played with all the features of Snow Leopard yet but am having fun with it so far. TechTools is a great program thats for sure.

Smee · Nov 4, 2009

mrs.oroblanco said:
I have a yahoo account, a gmail account, and a hotmail account.

You are right - the gmail account doesn't have anything dancing around. But it must have a cookie, or tracking device that my Norton doesn't catch, because, every once in awhile - it will pop up with an extra google toolbar with a bunch of options. I have turned it off - this has been an issue only since I got this new 'puter (Vista).

B

Mrs O --- If you have installed Adobe flash player, adobe air, adobe "anything" or any program downloaded from the internet as of late, they always offer you a "Free Toolbar" but in a very sneaky way.

Your page will load quickly . . . then about 10 or 15 seconds later . . . it will show a check box on a line giving them permission to install that "toolbar" on your computer. It is done that way on purpose.

Firstly, they make a small amount on each toolbar succesfully installed, so the more installed the better for them.

Secondly, if you don't want that toolbar and the box showed up as quickly as the rest of the page, or not ticked, they lose out on "helping" you. After all, they know better what you want than you do (at least that is how they look at it).

And, depending on where you get them, the "updater" that comes with the toolbar is a form of self-protection for the toolbar. Surely you would not want to delete such a valuable thing as a toolbar, so it will reinstall it to make sure you are able to continue to use the stoopid thing. If you don't want them coming back up, delete googleupdater or yahooupdater (don't remember the files offhand) as well as the programs which claim to be "searchprotection". Surely we would never want to change our search engines, so if we do, it corrects our mistake and puts it back.

Isn't that nice of them?

mrs.oroblanco · Nov 4, 2009

Thanks!!!

I will definitely look for that file that keeps it off forever - it is probably under that file "Googleupdater" - or something similar.

Its strange that it didn't happen with XP - not really strange, just different. It's annoying, much like the new Yahoo "shopper' that this computer had when I first got it.

B

I really think the next computer will be a Mac - my daughter has been using a Mac for years - she even uses a Mac professionally and she has not had half the problems that our PC's have had.

The great thing about Mac's - which has not always been the case - is that they now can run window-based programs. My daughter runs everything she wants.

Treasure_Hunter · Nov 4, 2009

I will give up Windows XP, when they pry my cold dead fingers off the mouse.

Vista is the worst OS since ME, and sucks big time, Windows 7 is just MS trying to correct a #$&% up OS. Just MS way of getting more money from us, not going to happen from me.........

mikeofaustin · Nov 4, 2009

TnMountains said:
Get a grip. Buy a Mac and quit worrying about all this virus ridden catastrophic mess

Or get linux 9.04. Done.

what to run some windows dependent software... then forget it (unless your into configuring virtual machine ware.. and if you are, chances are you don't have a problem with your PC software).

A friend of mine just upgraded to 7, and he absolutely hates it. It think XP is going to stay around for a LONG time. Perhaps microsoft needs to expand there business model away from 'operating systems'.

Smee · Nov 4, 2009

Treasure_Hunter said:
I will give up Windows XP, when they pry my cold dead fingers off the mouse.

Vista is the worst OS since ME, and sucks big time, Windows 7 is just MS trying to correct a #$&% up OS. Just MS way of getting more money from us, not going to happen from me.........

That was my first impression about Window$ 7, but after using it a couple of days, not so much right now, may change if things start going nuts. Has been really fast, I have premium installed on a notebook, no problems so far.

mikeofaustin said:
TnMountains said:

Get a grip. Buy a Mac and quit worrying about all this virus ridden catastrophic mess

Click to expand...

Or get linux 9.04. Done.

what to run some windows dependent software... then forget it (unless your into configuring virtual machine ware.. and if you are, chances are you don't have a problem with your PC software).

A friend of mine just upgraded to 7, and he absolutely hates it. It think XP is going to stay around for a LONG time. Perhaps microsoft needs to expand there business model away from 'operating systems'.

I bet you're talking about Ubuntu Linux. Easiest version of Linux I've used so far, although if my machine at home was 64 bit I would be trying Elive. Seen it run, and it looks even better.

Dontcha just love them Mac folks though

--- I work on computers. Repair them, build them for workstations and gamers, build PC based surveillance systems, etc. No one comes to me for a "Mac based" gaming system, no one comes to me for a "Mac based" surveillance system. I have had requests for both under Linux.

Gaming? nope. Surveillance? There is a version of Linux that is installed on a PCI card. You can be booted in seconds, and looking at your video.

I will say this about the Macs though, VERY well built hardware. Great design. Seldom have to work on them, but don't believe the "no viruses" stuff. The correct statement is "not the same viruses". Kinda like "purity scan". Bunch of nice church women downloaded it because it promised to remove the porn from your computer. It worked pretty much according to the customers . . . and after a few days (I know because all of the folks I cleaned up had installed it 2 weeks before the trouble started) it went out and got plenty of FRESH porn popups for their computers. Nobody wants old stale porn on their machines! They want the new "Fresh" stuff. :laughing9:

mikeofaustin · Nov 4, 2009

Yep, I have an ubuntu media server at home that's been up for about 5 years now (the same as a te-vo but on steriods). I use a micro-atx board that uses about 15 watts (a night light). I never have to do anything to it but log in every once in a while (via webpage) to tell it what shows to record. It's also my internet server storage... (read: internet). Linux is soo savvy. Where ever I'm at in this crazy world, I'll mount my remote drive likes it's a part of my local computer. Streaming video from it is just now taking shape too (past beta phase). Hulu? forget it. Just log into my home server and stream.... (granted you have to have a fast upload speed, or at least let it buffer up).

mrs.oroblanco · Nov 5, 2009

I have almost no knowledge of the intrinsic values of a Mac, except that she is a graphic artist, and manages a firm that is fairly well-known, and not only does advertising, but book covers and such. She has been doing this since her last year of college (she is 42 now), and 100% of the set-ups and actual graphics are all done with a Mac. I used it a couple of times while helping out when she had to cover for 3 people who were not at work - and it ran wonderfully - anything she designed and scanned, came out wonderfully - never screwed up, or put things out of context or order, unlike the Windows system they had several years before that.

That's my entire experience with a Mac - except for in the very early computer days when Procter & Gamble used Macs for our statistical information and reports and inventory shipping. (They went to Windows after about 5 years - don't know why), and that use was for very specific programs only.

I do want to buy a Mac - just because.

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Treasure_Hunter · Nov 5, 2009

Nero 9 as Nero 8 and older are not compatible with Windows 7 and will stop working once Windows 7 is installed.

No Upgrade Install From XP to Windows 7.

Control Panel Is a Mess. The Simple layout literally hides what you're looking for, while the All view masks it with the camouflage of multiplicity. Control Panel is no longer really the single central hub for getting everything done.

Windows 7 is really a build of Vista with GUI enhancements along with other OS enhancements. The GUI is designed to run faster than Vista's that is all. XP is still the most reliable OS.

Windows 7 is a refined version of an operating system that sucked from the get go.

Should have named it VISTA II or maybe Windows ME II

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Smee · Nov 5, 2009

I am writing this from a Windows 7 laptop. Got it Monday, been using it since. Tomorrow I may curse it and use it for target practice, but so far --- SO FAR --- not one hiccup. Didn't get 1 day with Vi$ta or Millenium before the wheels started falling off.

The results here are that it feels more like the "out of box" experience I had with XP. So far, so good.

You can set up a "virtual machine" and have another operating system there (according to one website I visited) like XP. Looking forward to trying "elive" in that virtual machine.

godisnum1 · Nov 5, 2009

Try using Sun Microsystem's VirtualBox... it's a really amazing Virt program, and will probably outperform VMware or the Windows XP Virtualization from within Win7. Since my work's Cisco VPN isn't currently supporting Win7 until sometime later this month, I've been using VirtualBox to run XP Pro everyday for work from within my Win7 system.... and it works flawlessly!! Best of all, it's open sourced & FREE!

http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/index.jsp

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Lasivian · Nov 6, 2009

If you wnt a good non-web-based email program that is free go with Pegasus Mail.

http://www.pmail.com/

They have been around for over a decade and always been free. I used it for many years before going to gmail.