Woohoo, a plate!!

Hidden_Realm · Nov 14, 2009

Managed to dig this little plate out of the dirt yesterday but at first, has hard to make out what it was. After a bit of cleaning and polish, this is what shined through...

British War of 1812 era drummer back shako plate!!! Was worn on the back of the drummer boys cap so the men behind him could tell who he was. It measures about 1 1/4" x 1 3/4" in size. Little less then a foot away, was a musketball and a bit of pottery. Can't wait to go back when a little more time and search a bit bigger area and see if anything else is hiding there!!

CMDiamonddawg · Nov 14, 2009

Congrats on the Banner Hidden R !!!! Never saw one of these :icon_scratch:

Really interesting :thumbsup:

aa battery · Nov 14, 2009

Detectingfreak · Nov 14, 2009

congratulations on the banner! Nice job on the plate! :icon_thumleft:

garthbfan169 · Nov 14, 2009

WTG H.R. That is one sweet find. And it great shape to boot!! :notworthy:

Tnmountains · Nov 14, 2009

Perfect timing. That is such a nice item. Imagine the child so proud to wear it walking into battle beating out a rythm as they advanced forward. Nice history there!
TnMtns

vermonster · Nov 14, 2009

- :YaHoo-Just a wonderful find !! I'm happy 4 U

Hidden_Realm · Nov 15, 2009

hogge said:
Congratulations on the Banner. Thought it had a real good chance. Now we all want to see value on this piece. (well.... me anyways) THEE HOGGEMAN

always wonder for these items as to their value, but that all depends on what one is willing to fork out. Is a hard to value alone unless others have sold and can see their value. I wish there was an easy way to tell, but that would be asking to much lol. For now, it gets documented and added to the collection and find a spot to place it.

Hidden_Realm · Nov 16, 2009

CRUSADER said:
I dug out my WWI version, as you can tell your 100 year earlier example came out much better

Maybe mine came out better, but took a lot of cleaning. Yours looks really cool also and wondering what the back looks like for attachment.

tsgman · Nov 16, 2009

Great find!

CRUSADER · Nov 16, 2009

Hidden_Realm said:
CRUSADER said:

I dug out my WWI version, as you can tell your 100 year earlier example came out much better

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Maybe mine came out better, but took a lot of cleaning. Yours looks really cool also and wondering what the back looks like for attachment.

Like a normal cap badge with the 2 loops which the split pin went through after the loops were pressed through 2 ready made holes (ie the spilt pin went on the inside of the cap). But these went on a cloth beret & those early drummer boy hats look more solid, but I guess could have a similar arrangement.

I can see on the reverse of yours two possible solder marks where the attachments broke off (what they looked like is guess work to me, as I have not seen an early one like yours)

Hidden_Realm · Nov 16, 2009

CRUSADER said:
Hidden_Realm said:

CRUSADER said:

I dug out my WWI version, as you can tell your 100 year earlier example came out much better

Click to expand...

Maybe mine came out better, but took a lot of cleaning. Yours looks really cool also and wondering what the back looks like for attachment.

Click to expand...

Like a normal cap badge with the 2 loops which the split pin went through after the loops were pressed through 2 ready made holes (ie the spilt pin went on the inside of the cap). But these went on a cloth beret & those early drummer boy hats look more solid, but I guess could have a similar arrangement.

I can see on the reverse of yours two possible solder marks where the attachments broke off (what they looked like is guess work to me, as I have not seen an early one like yours)

I have a few smaller ones, ww1/11 with those same style loops & pin. As you seen, this one has like two solder spots on it but long since gone. I have also a cartridge badge in two pieces though, but with solder marks close to this one. Always neat to see the different ways of fastening badges and plates on. The one for my avatar here, just used 4 small holes to hold into place.

CRUSADER · Nov 16, 2009

Hidden_Realm said:
CRUSADER said:

Hidden_Realm said:

CRUSADER said:

I dug out my WWI version, as you can tell your 100 year earlier example came out much better

Click to expand...

Maybe mine came out better, but took a lot of cleaning. Yours looks really cool also and wondering what the back looks like for attachment.

Click to expand...

Like a normal cap badge with the 2 loops which the split pin went through after the loops were pressed through 2 ready made holes (ie the spilt pin went on the inside of the cap). But these went on a cloth beret & those early drummer boy hats look more solid, but I guess could have a similar arrangement.

I can see on the reverse of yours two possible solder marks where the attachments broke off (what they looked like is guess work to me, as I have not seen an early one like yours)

Click to expand...

I have a few smaller ones, ww1/11 with those same style loops & pin. As you seen, this one has like two solder spots on it but long since gone. I have also a cartridge badge in two pieces though, but with solder marks close to this one. Always neat to see the different ways of fastening badges and plates on. The one for my avatar here, just used 4 small holes to hold into place.