Would like confirmation on this jaw section with teeth found in Florida

[Perico]

Found by a friend.

 

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[Age_old]

I'm going to guess wolf, but I'll let Harry tackle this one. He's much better at this than I am.

 

[Peyton Manning]

with no scale of size I cannot rule out squatch

 

[Perico]

Sorry I took the pictures without a measurement.
Going off top of my head I would say 2.5" tip to tip. Will verify and get back to you tomorrow.

 

[Harry Pristis]

Crown length is a crucial measurement. This appears to be a canid maxilla with P3 and P4.

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[Ninjafossils]

Depending on area, it could be the Edwards wokf

 

[Perico]

Harry, the Crown is 3 cm long. Hopefully this is enough information to help you. Thanks again for your time and help! And Ninjafossils it was found in Florida

 

[Ninjafossils]

then it could be

 

[Harry Pristis]

Harry, the Crown is 3 cm long. Hopefully this is enough information to help you. Thanks again for your time and help! And Ninjafossils it was found in Florida

At 30mm crown length, this is not Canis edwardi which is a small wolf roughly the size of a coyote. It is more likely to be Canis dirus, based on the length of the carnassial.

In canids such as Canis latrans, the upper carnassials (the large pointy cheek tooth) are the fourth premolars (P4). The lower carnassial teeth are the first molar (m1).

It's easy usually to distinguish between canid upper and lower carnassials. The upper carnassial (P4) in canids has three roots (or "fangs" as they are called in some books). The lower carnassial - the molar - has only two roots.

These coyote upper carnassials have a crown length of about 0.8" or ~20.3mm.

Other canid P4 crown lengths are:

For 50 dogs, C. familiaris, the avg. length was . . . . . . . . . . . . 19.28mm

For 111 female coyotes, C. latrans, the avg. lngth. was . . . . . . 19.60mm

For 166 male coyotes, the average length was . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20.38mm

For 12 eastern female gray wolves, C. lupus, the avg. was . . . . 22.67mm

For 19 eastern male gray wolves, the avg. P4 length was . . . . . . . . . . 24.55mm

For a good number of dire wolves, C. dirus, the crown length. . . . 30-35mm

 

[Perico]

Wow! Thank you so much for that analysis. I love these forums and the amount of knowledge that participates on them. I am constantly learning. This is just a hobby of mine that is turning into a mental illness. Glad the water is low so I can take my medicine.

 

[Guest 1551]

i was thinking dire wolf

 

[hvacker]

i was thinking dire wolf

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