Zaxfire69,This Ones For You-Dug a French Pin Fire Cartridge TODAY

VOL1266-X · Jan 3, 2011

Zaxfire69,This One's For You-Dug a French Pin Fire Cartridge TODAY

I had planned to go to a U.S. site today or visit Dman who is still under the weather. As he already had company and it was a sunny day in the upper 40s in Tennessee. I decided to hunt 2 or 3 hours at Morgan's 1862 camp close to home instead of driving to the U.S. camp. Now, here's the VERY weird part.
Just before I left, I responded to and congratulated Zaxfire69 for his recovery of a rare CW shotgun pin fire cartridge. Dman and I have only dug 4 or 5 pin fire pistol bullets between us and any pin fire bullet, cartridge, or fully assembled shells are rare finds here. I recall Buckleboy telling me that he has only found one pin fire cartridge in the thousands of relics that I know he's dug. In other words, finding anything pin fire happens only every blue moon in the Western Theater of the CW.
I hunted almost 3 hours at Morgan's CSA camp. I dug 2 damaged Confederate Gardners (what a shame), a dropped .69 cal. round ball, and the copper cartridge from the French Lefauchex pin fire pistol bullet in the pic. They are recovered with either brass or copper cases according to our friend Rafael Eldridge at Shiloh Relics.
What are the odds? I should have played the lottery today. HH, Quindy.

VOL1266-X · Jan 4, 2011

Re: Zaxfire69,This One's For You-Dug a French Pin Fire Cartridge TODAY

civilman1 said:
Too wierd Quindy...I was just doing a little research on Zax's 12ga. pin fire and came back and saw this Excellent dig my man

Thanks Joe. Please, please let MiniMe use that T.D.I. that she going to buy you for your birthday. Oops-LOL. HH my friend.

Dman said:
Good finds. I am looking forward to getting back out in the field soon.
Dman

Well hurry the H up because I need a reputable witness with me because I'm liable to make a banner recovery on every trip-LOL. See you Friday.

rebelrouser said:
sure glad you got out and found some relics. look forward to seeing your relics you find.. hope Dman gets well soon and you both have a great year.

Thanks Don. You have sure scored your share of great Tenn. relics.

CMDiamonddawg said:
Great lead Never heard of a pin fire cart. , how about that Interesting , I see a little tit as well Thanks Quindy

Dawg, you should be well versed by all the info. off ered on Tnet by now. HH, Quindy.

Dixiedigger said:
Congrats Quindy, you did better than me, I didn't get to go.

Andy, I felt sure you would have a great day in Southern Tennessee and you will soon. Your friend, Quindy.

wettpaint said:
Zaxfire may not see this for a little while, I hear he has his hands full with a new little relic hunter.

WP, I'd say he did and with a KEEPER too. Thanks for looking and HH. Quindy

Woodland Detectors · Jan 4, 2011

Re: Zaxfire69,This One's For You-Dug a French Pin Fire Cartridge TODAY

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Congrats Quindy on that awesome CW relic! I have yet to find one myself.
Tell Dman to hurry up and get better.

staydetuned · Jan 5, 2011

Re: Zaxfire69,This One's For You-Dug a French Pin Fire Cartridge TODAY

VOL1266-X said:
staydetuned said:

Very cool!

But I'm a bit confused; I didn't realize they were so rare. Are there more common or commonly found types? I've found a handful in random places out here in California, including one in an Oakland park (and I think at least one more from old park turf.) And Cody, a good 5+ in one hunt at Bill's Pinfire Peak, which he theorizes was an Englishman's homestead. All those were the smaller guage, whereas the ones I'd found before were mostly 12 guage. I should dig them up and see...

I knew they were fairly uncommon, but to hear all of you accomplished hunters having only found one or two, especially back east, is surprising. Or maybe these are a different type? If not I feel much better about my finds, and much luckier! Thanks for any info, if ya know...

Jayson

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Jayson, they range fron a little 5mm to 15mm in the M & M Bullet Book. All I can tell you is that we mostly dig the 11mm in CW sites here. The copper cases seem to hold up better than the brass ones. The lead bullets seem more prone to ground action than the normal 3 ringers too. Since they were not government issue, they were just privately owned and not very plentiful. Until Zax found the shotgun hull, I was unaware that they were pin fire shotguns. We have yet to dig pin fire bullets around old homesites here-only in CW camps. Thanks for your interest. HH, Quindy.

Quindy, thank you so much for the info and taking the time to reply; very cool. I managed to find a couple laying around my room here :P The one on the right was found in park turf in Oakland, CA and is marked E B. / LONDON / 12. I can't remember where the one on the left came from; it's marked on top, something I can't read, NO 12 / LONDON...