captain ack1
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hello fellow searchers....which detector goes deeper than the excal? im ready to upgrade
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Craig-PI said:The ability for a detector to find small gold has alot to do with the pulse delay... Eric Fosters machines have a adjustable pulse delay getting down to 10uS (microseconds) the DF and Headhunter PI are in the 15 to 17 micro-second range, the Sand Shark is around 22uS meaning the detectors closer to the EF machine will pick up smaller gold deeper... some beaches have trouble though with a pulse delay of 10uS
Personally I have run a pulse for 8 years and found quite a bit of gold... I don't think I have missed much if any unless it was deeper than my detector can see... in the beginning I dug everything and got frustrated digging tiny staples down close to a foot but I became very good with my machine and know it very well so I can and do discriminate by ear as do my hunting friends... with the DF even though its a 1 tone machine there is subtle differences to that tone... iron for the most part is a long drawn out tone, gold... its hard to explain but the best way is its a clean round tone (smooth) I have been running a Whites for 8 years... I know it very well...
seeker41 said:ok i will chime in..............anytime you do not dig something based on its tone or id or lack of tone or desirable id, you are taking the risk of missing something good! using any detector on planet earth. when you dont dig you are playing the odds, its your choice as to how much of a gambler you are.
i do own an excal and i also plan on getting a pi detector in the near future for its depth in salt , i dont care if i will be digging alot i expect that.
as for the original question....... a pi detector, from everything i have ever read is significantly deeper than vlf machines.
match a cz20 with a excal and you are equal on depth depending on each machines calibration.
match a good pi with either of these and the pi wins by a significant amount as far as depth is concerned.
anyone want to bring up the question of ..........."ability to detect micro-gold and very tiny gold items" which detector is better at that?
biggmike said:Can Slaw said:seeker41 said:anyone know how to close this "which ones better/deeper" Pandora's box?
Why?? The post does not have to be read if it is not a subject people are interested in. Personally, I am enjoying the comments about PI's and reading the comments from people that don't have a clue.
I do have a clue that PI hunters have a bucket full of iron in their garage though...
CS
Again, it comes down to the right tool for the right job.
OldeBeechnut said:CS
Again, it comes down to the right tool for the right job.
And Research on your locations................ special, if your hunting for the Old Gold..
My Honest opinion................................Someday this maybe the best hunting, or the only if you still want to find Gold
Good Luck on your choice
My Excalibur's Back ups..........
OldeBeechnut said:CS
Again, it comes down to the right tool for the right job.
And Research on your locations................ special, if your hunting for the Old Gold..
My Honest opinion................................Someday this maybe the best hunting, or the only if you still want to find Gold
Good Luck on your choice
My Excalibur's Back ups..........
seeker41 said:i would love to find a goldscan 5 or even better the waterproof version of the goldscan 5 what i may end up getting is a whites tdi and waterproofing it. dont know if i could ever become confident enough to skip over/not dig a target. but the excessive deep digging might help.
chuck
Craig-PI said:The ability for a detector to find small gold has alot to do with the pulse delay... Eric Fosters machines have a adjustable pulse delay getting down to 10uS (microseconds) the DF and Headhunter PI are in the 15 to 17 micro-second range, the Sand Shark is around 22uS meaning the detectors closer to the EF machine will pick up smaller gold deeper... some beaches have trouble though with a pulse delay of 10uS
Personally I have run a pulse for 8 years and found quite a bit of gold... I don't think I have missed much if any unless it was deeper than my detector can see... in the beginning I dug everything and got frustrated digging tiny staples down close to a foot but I became very good with my machine and know it very well so I can and do discriminate by ear as do my hunting friends... with the DF even though its a 1 tone machine there is subtle differences to that tone... iron for the most part is a long drawn out tone, gold... its hard to explain but the best way is its a clean round tone (smooth) I have been running a Whites for 8 years... I know it very well...
seeker41 said:ok i will chime in..............anytime you do not dig something based on its tone or id or lack of tone or desirable id, you are taking the risk of missing something good! using any detector on planet earth. when you dont dig you are playing the odds, its your choice as to how much of a gambler you are.
i do own an excal and i also plan on getting a pi detector in the near future for its depth in salt , i dont care if i will be digging alot i expect that.
as for the original question....... a pi detector, from everything i have ever read is significantly deeper than vlf machines.
match a cz20 with a excal and you are equal on depth depending on each machines calibration.
match a good pi with either of these and the pi wins by a significant amount as far as depth is concerned.
anyone want to bring up the question of ..........."ability to detect micro-gold and very tiny gold items" which detector is better at that?
Treasure_Hunter said:Here is my water arsonal, the only change is the Excal second from the left now has the SEF 12"x15" Butterfly coil...
Craig-PI said:For a while Whites was toying with the idea of waterproofing the TDI, I recently spoke with them and that isn't going to happen but its my understanding its going to be upgraded...
seeker41 said:i would love to find a goldscan 5 or even better the waterproof version of the goldscan 5 what i may end up getting is a whites tdi and waterproofing it. dont know if i could ever become confident enough to skip over/not dig a target. but the excessive deep digging might help.
chuck
Craig-PI said:The ability for a detector to find small gold has alot to do with the pulse delay... Eric Fosters machines have a adjustable pulse delay getting down to 10uS (microseconds) the DF and Headhunter PI are in the 15 to 17 micro-second range, the Sand Shark is around 22uS meaning the detectors closer to the EF machine will pick up smaller gold deeper... some beaches have trouble though with a pulse delay of 10uS
Personally I have run a pulse for 8 years and found quite a bit of gold... I don't think I have missed much if any unless it was deeper than my detector can see... in the beginning I dug everything and got frustrated digging tiny staples down close to a foot but I became very good with my machine and know it very well so I can and do discriminate by ear as do my hunting friends... with the DF even though its a 1 tone machine there is subtle differences to that tone... iron for the most part is a long drawn out tone, gold... its hard to explain but the best way is its a clean round tone (smooth) I have been running a Whites for 8 years... I know it very well...
seeker41 said:ok i will chime in..............anytime you do not dig something based on its tone or id or lack of tone or desirable id, you are taking the risk of missing something good! using any detector on planet earth. when you dont dig you are playing the odds, its your choice as to how much of a gambler you are.
i do own an excal and i also plan on getting a pi detector in the near future for its depth in salt , i dont care if i will be digging alot i expect that.
as for the original question....... a pi detector, from everything i have ever read is significantly deeper than vlf machines.
match a cz20 with a excal and you are equal on depth depending on each machines calibration.
match a good pi with either of these and the pi wins by a significant amount as far as depth is concerned.
anyone want to bring up the question of ..........."ability to detect micro-gold and very tiny gold items" which detector is better at that?
Joe... When you finally retire and you make your trip to connecticut leave the Excal home because I am going to take you to my gold beach you won't need discrimination there but you will need that extra depth PI JOE and I are going to tire you out
OldeBeechnut said:Joe... When you finally retire and you make your trip to connecticut leave the Excal home because I am going to take you to my gold beach you won't need discrimination there but you will need that extra depth PI JOE and I are going to tire you out
Sounds like a deal, I've got my Mustang Survival Suit ready(MSD900)
Watching and Advice from you will prepare me for the Bay here..I see only the PI's being used then and I just hope I can be as successful as you.... With over "60" old beach's in the Bay I see another PI coming soon to the herd.......Maybe the Detector Pro HH? or a aqua sound..
OldeBeechnut said:Treasure Hunter, You have a great looking arsenal, no wonder no one is finding any gold in Florida..
Question for you....Not looking for any ship wrecks, and Unless you have a big storm would coverage (big coil) be the most important thing around where you hunt since there are so many hunters and fresh drops would be the targets. Or are there possible targets that have been passed by and sunk deeper and one would need a PI....I guess alot would have to do with the weather, location and sand conditions?
Craig-PI said:The Detector Pro Headhunter and the Dual Field have the same pulse delay setting as well as depth... If I wanted to add a detector and it was another PI I would try and find a old Barracuda they are sweet...
http://www.losttreasure.com/content/archives/anchor-electronics-barracuda
Jason in Enid said:Craig-PI said:The Detector Pro Headhunter and the Dual Field have the same pulse delay setting as well as depth... If I wanted to add a detector and it was another PI I would try and find a old Barracuda they are sweet...
http://www.losttreasure.com/content/archives/anchor-electronics-barracuda
Have you ever sent your PIs to Mr. Bill to tweek them?
steve from ohio said:I don't know. PI is great. But an Excalibur with a treasure amp would be pretty hard to beat.
Thanks Joe / aka OldBeechnut for this link.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8v0lBff1lU
I need to get one of those amps and give it a try.