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Oct 21, 2009, 03:51 PM
#1
Rare Find Today
I went back to the spot where I'd found the King William a few weeks ago, hopeing to find the last scraps I'd missed over the years. I kept with the small 5" coil due to all the iron, but boosted sensitivity up to an almost unbearable 26 this time around. All signals were poor and read iron by the numbers. This badly broken signal read a 1f c27 jumping back and forth to a 27f c50. Turns out there was a shotgun shell and iron in the hole.
This is a U.S. Navy buckle (tongue only with loop gone). It is very unlikely I would ever find the wreath, as besides pounding this site hard for so long, much dirt has been carted away and sold for fill, and what little ground that remains is becoming an unofficial dump.
The closest identity to this buckle is listed in Kerksis (page 73) where he describes this buckle having 13 stars (as does mine). Curiously he shows a picture of a similar buckle bearing 17 stars with a slight variance in the angle of the anchor flukes. He never describes that buckle, and any input on this point would be appreciated.
As it stands, the buckle he lists with 13 stars is rated as rarity 9, tied with the rarest of all Naval buckles, and tied with the rarest of all military buckles, Union or Confederate, that are not one of a kind.
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Oct 21, 2009 03:51 PM
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Oct 21, 2009, 03:56 PM
#2
Re: Rare Find Today
Back at ya! 
"Wow, first JimBeHunin's find today and now yours! The *stars* definately fell on you guys today. You have my vote also."
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Oct 21, 2009, 03:58 PM
#3
Re: Rare Find Today
Thats a great find there,congrats
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:09 PM
#4
Re: Rare Find Today
Love that buckle!!! I'd get that restored! 
Banner find!
Dale
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:38 PM
#5
Re: Rare Find Today
Excellent find................WTG......
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:39 PM
#6
Re: Rare Find Today
Excellent buckle!! congrats
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:46 PM
#7
Re: Rare Find Today
Very nice buckle! Congrats
Anyone can make life interesting you just have to go out there and do things instead of sitting on your butt doing nothing. Second quote: Life is about trying new things not just standing around.
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:54 PM
#8
Re: Rare Find Today
Stunning! In great condition as well!
If the elevator tries to bring you down, go crazy, punch a higher floor!
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Oct 21, 2009, 04:56 PM
#9
Re: Rare Find Today
you got it all age and condition!
great looking centre piece, awesome find!!
.......and the dynamite goes....yeeah BOOOM baaabay!! 
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:01 PM
#10
Re: Rare Find Today
Great find John, wish I knew more on buckles, but don't, so I must ask, era? War of 1812 plus or minus is what I would think with that type of eagle on the anchor(buttons).
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:04 PM
#11
Re: Rare Find Today
"you got it all age and condition!
great looking centre piece, awesome find!!"
Thanks all! It's funny, whenever I go on a long drive to a site I start envisioning some rarity that might be there (today it was a silver center cent which morphed into a Birch cent! Ha ha! ) On the way home I started envisioning the potential rarity of the buckle I was not familiar with. It blew me away when it actually turned out to be what I'd hoped.
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:09 PM
#12
Re: Rare Find Today
"War of 1812 plus or minus is what I would think with that type of eagle on the anchor"
Thanks Don. The Buckle Kerksis lists of this design dates from around 1825. As there are only a few known, I don't know exactly how he arrives at that date, particularly, as you ponted out, the buttons of the same design (Albert's NA85) seem to date a little earlier.
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:12 PM
#13
Re: Rare Find Today
Killer buckle, Johnny!
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:18 PM
#14
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:36 PM
#15
Re: Rare Find Today
Banner Buckle
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Oct 21, 2009, 05:55 PM
#16
Re: Rare Find Today
Banner! Holy cow.
Jim in So. Cal.
Fisher F75, Minelab E-Trac, Whites Surf PI Dual Field
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Oct 21, 2009, 06:13 PM
#17
Re: Rare Find Today
I just remembered that my USTE button was authorized by the government in April 1820 and the eagle design was the same as your buckle, so the buckle could most certainly be 1820s.
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Oct 21, 2009, 06:35 PM
#18
 My Find of a Lifetime!
Re: Rare Find Today
Way to go on the buckle, Johnny!!!! It looks like it is in great shape. You have my vote!
I don't know the mechanics of those types of buckles, but it may be likely that the other portion is still around that spot!
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Oct 21, 2009, 06:40 PM
#19
Re: Rare Find Today
WOW, Thats A Nice Buckle
HH!!
Swingit
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Oct 21, 2009, 07:06 PM
#20
Re: Rare Find Today
Great looking Buckle! Congrats on stellar relic!!!! Hogge
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