2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770s house. "Update" Uncle Kenny

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2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. "Update" Uncle Kenny

Kinda late so I'll write the story tomarrow. Found by my Uncle Kenny Adams who is visiting from Texas. Relic was over 8" down, and found in Hinsdale Ma. at a 1770's house. :headbang: O.K. here's the story: Called Uncle Kenny for a hunt on some property I have permission to hunt. She is one of my customers and a real nice lady. She actually celebrated her 91st on wed. the day of my hunt. So when I picked up Kenny, he got into my truck, and had mentioned he hunted his brothers place, where he stays when up here, earlier in the day. He said he had found something and wanted to show me, as he wasn't quite sure what it was. When he pulled it from his pouch I almost fell out of the truck!! HOLY( something or other and other)......!!!!!! When he told me his brother said "That thing ain't worth squat", I told him that this had to be his best find ever in his 40, (YES 40), years of detecting! I think when I showed him the site that Grasshopper posted for me, it really started to sink in. He is a great guy, and was my dads best friend,( we always called him Uncle Kenny, not really my Uncle) But he is to us. Relic was found in the vacinity of ALL my Banner finds from last year. Seems to be a hot place for relics and coins of this period. I couldn't stop talking about it , all the way to Tyringham. (about 20 miles away). I think I was more excited than him. :laughing7: Some pics of Uncle Kenny at Hogges house with his find!
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

grasshopper said:
looks a lot like the one all the way at the bottom. that one doesn't have a 2nd piece, though.

http://www.artifacts.org/Fleetpage.htm
WOW!!! Looks exactly like it. Even has the twisted rope on top of the loop. Awesome ID grasshopper!
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Hogge, absolutely wonderful find!!! I was going to guess because of the life ring that surrounds the anchor that this might be a very early example from one of the life saving branches, even Coast Guard, however grasshopper seems to have identified this tentatively as being of Spanish origin. It may still prove to be a lifesaving branch. You have apparently found the first complete example recorded! This is so amazing to have found a complete example of such a fragile antiquity!!! Can't say it enough!!! , This find is fantastic!! and definitely a banner find!!!! :hello2: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumright:
 

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WOW says it all hogge!! Fantastic finds WTG!!! :notworthy: :hello2:
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Hogge, give Kenny a high five for me. Outstanding. That's pizzing with the big dogs.
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

I agree Spanish, at least that's the ID I seen given to the couple I've seen posted before. (They were not complete if I recall correctly, just the anchor portion)

Now the odd part, I believe the ones I seen were found in the south, one probably from Texas. :icon_scratch:
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

That's an awesome Spanish buckle :icon_king:

My Banner vote is in :hello2:
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Looks identical to one at the bottom of the page, only he found both pieces, while one in link only shows 1/2 of the buckle....Great find.. :icon_thumright:
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Very BANNERABLE!
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Very Awesome Buckle, It is very rare to find this complete :notworthy:.


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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

I also agree that it is most likely a Spanish buckle, apparently from the late 1700's to early 1800's time frame, going by the Powell site info, or perhaps a tad later. Maybe a War of 1812 soldier somehow picked one up while down south or a former one moved north, who knows, :dontknow:

I do not find it too unusual to be found at a homesite, since artifacts can be brought in from anywhere. On the Spanish site mentioned by Grasshopper, one of the triple style shoe buckles on the site was found by me in Southern NJ along with a Spanish button or two, but with the KGI Indian Peace medal also, so you just never know. (John Powell ID'd the buckle and buttons for me and now has the buckle)

Again, congrats to your Uncle on finding a wonderful relic. I suggest sending the photo and other info to John Powell and see what he says, his email addy is at the bottom of the home page on the site. http://www.artifacts.org/default.htm

Don
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Very Cool!

Didn't someone on here find something similiar? The small piece on the left with the anchor? Theirs was broken. It was within the last week or two. Just looks very familiar to me.

It was either in the WHAT IS IT or TODAY's FIND section.
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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

LadyDigger said:
Very Cool!

Didn't someone on here find something similiar? The small piece on the left with the anchor? Theirs was broken. It was within the last week or two. Just looks very familiar to me.

It was either in the WHAT IS IT or TODAY's FIND section.
Annmarie

Annmarie that was my post, but there are many differences I believe, to begin with my anchor device is a fouled anchor. :)

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Don in SJ said:
LadyDigger said:
Very Cool!

Didn't someone on here find something similiar? The small piece on the left with the anchor? Theirs was broken. It was within the last week or two. Just looks very familiar to me.

It was either in the WHAT IS IT or TODAY's FIND section.
Annmarie

Annmarie that was my post, but there are many differences I believe, to begin with my anchor device is a fouled anchor. :)

Don

Thanks Don....for the response!

Ok...but I knew I saw something similiar :wink: ;D... would that link someone above posted, would yours be on there? I haven't read your post in some time, was it solved? Think it's cool how someone finds something and within weeks or months ... others find similiar items... don't cha' just love this hobby?
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Don in SJ said:
I also agree that it is most likely a Spanish buckle, apparently from the late 1700's to early 1800's time frame, going by the Powell site info, or perhaps a tad later. Maybe a War of 1812 soldier somehow picked one up while down south or a former one moved north, who knows, :dontknow:

I do not find it too unusual to be found at a homesite, since artifacts can be brought in from anywhere. On the Spanish site mentioned by Grasshopper, one of the triple style shoe buckles on the site was found by me in Southern NJ along with a Spanish button or two, but with the KGI Indian Peace medal also, so you just never know. (John Powell ID'd the buckle and buttons for me and now has the buckle)

Again, congrats to your Uncle on finding a wonderful relic. I suggest sending the photo and other info to John Powell and see what he says, his email addy is at the bottom of the home page on the site. http://www.artifacts.org/default.htm

Don
Sent an E-mail with pics to John Powell this morning. Will let you know what he says. Thanks a bunch Don. :thumbsup:
 

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Re: 2-Piece "Navy" (or Marine) Buckle found at 1770's house. ID and Age needed

Hogge,
Congratulate your uncle for me. Very nice buckle.
NJ
 

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