A buckle and a brooch

[IowaRelic]

Found these last season on my property over the Mississippi. Ideas on age?

 

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[IowaRelic]

Likeable and undateable apparently

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

The iron buckle is probably horse harness/tack related c1900.
Your 'brooch' was originally gold-plated, but I don't think it is a brooch.
It's more likely that it hung from a chain around a ladies waist, similar to a chatelaine... date wise c1910 - 15.
Might also have been part of a hair clip/pin, hard to tell for sure exactly.

Dave

 

[IowaRelic]

Thank you!!

 

[ARC]

Item 2...

IMO...

Scarf / bandana clip/hold.

But ?

 

[IowaRelic]

Looks like it would hold a sash or scarf, yes , but what is the eyelet for?

 

[HuntinDog]

I agree tour first piece is a horse tack buckel.

So questions for the second piece?
How close is the cross bar to the back?
With the applied ring on the back, I would say it held astone of some sort.
The back bar could have been to hold it in place. Although unsuccessfully.

So with alll that said I think it was a pendant.

 

[ARC]

Looks like it would hold a sash or scarf, yes , but what is the eyelet for?

Dingling dangly thingy majiggy whatchasmacallit.

 

[A2coins]

Thats a head scrather

 

[Reanm8er]

What kind of a flower has six petals?

 

[IowaRelic]

What kind of a flower has six petals?

 

[Older The Better]

Just a shot in the dark

 

[Reanm8er]

To me, the flowers individually look like lilies. Where they all come together in the center may look like one flower but, may, in reality be a representation of the individual buds gathered together in a bouquet or corsage. I've seen broaches that had pins as well as loops so you could wear them as an amulet or a broach. I allow that the strap across the back and curvature of the strap and the front panel suggest a slide for hair, scarf or sash but the two small holes or spots might be where the pin was fastened to the blackstrap. The lily would be a spring reference perhaps?

Either way, nice find of a beautiful piece! The filigree background suggests a possible Eastern background. Filigree like this is darned hard to do. It would have taken many hours to make the original wax model for this, by hand. The Russians and Eastern European folks do the best I've seen.

I'd recommend you roll it on a stamp pad and then a piece of stout paper over a rubber pad of some kind. This will give you a more two dimensional image of the representation. Then immediately clean the face with denatured alcohol and a tooth brush. Show us what comes out, please?
Congrats and best wishes!-----------Phil

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

When I look at this flower, I see a Daisy.

- Dave

"Daisies symbolize innocence and purity, especially with white daisies with yellow or pale centers. In Norse mythology, the daisy is Freya's sacred flower. Freya is the goddess of love, beauty, and fertility, and as such the daisy came by symbolize childbirth, motherhood, and new beginnings. Daisies are sometimes given to congratulate new mothers. The sender can keep a secret. Keeping a secret is one way a person can exhibit that they truly love another."

 

[CRUSADER]

Buckle - late 19th C horse harness buckle.

 

[DCMatt]

Half of a Ladies dress/sash buckle. Turn of the 20th C to 1930's.



The other half had the hook that fit thru the eye.

 

[Metro Retro]

Your second piece looks like half a buckle that has gotten a little bent. Very nice.

 

[Mimichele]

The “brooch” I think was probably actually a cloth holder and possibly hung from shoulder shrug or a cloth waist wrap w a something hanging from it like a tassel or a key but I think something hung from it rather than it hung from a necklace. Also the design looks possibly Celtic or Scottish design. Bagpipe strap holder maybe?

 

[IowaRelic]

The “brooch” I think was probably actually a cloth holder and possibly hung from shoulder shrug or a cloth waist wrap w a something hanging from it like a tassel or a key but I think something hung from it rather than it hung from a necklace. Also the design looks possibly Celtic or Scottish design. Bagpipe strap holder maybe?

I believe it belonged to a woman named Lula Carter. On the atlas map, she is the owner around turn of the century. Her father before her, likely the builder, as listed as carter place in 1874. I have several little ornate trinkets and pieces from a few yards south of the cellar.

 

[Reanm8er]

With deference to my friends Dave and Matt:
I’ve never seen a sash buckle so small in diameter, 1 ¼” to 1 1 /2”. Those I’ve seen are about 3” in dia and the two pieces comprise a circle or oval 3” in diameter or 3” x 4”. Mostly I’ve only seen halves.
I’ve seen many pieces of jewelry that could be worn either way, from a chain or pinned on.
I’ve never seen a sash buckle with piercings or spot welds on the back strap.
I’m cool with Freya, but I’d to suggest Ostara. the Saxon Goddess of fertility and rebirth. The festival of Ostara was morphed into Easter by the Christian Church.
Easter= Lilies, fancy dresses, bunnies, celebration of spring.
Looks like somebody's Easter Egg Hunt must have goten a little rowdy! Ha!