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Really!!!!?, in this day and age, how can we condemn the third world when we accept this in ours?
hombre_de_plata_flaco said:Great. Another "animal cruelty" thread. I'm sure this one will quickly disappear just like the last one.
So the horse busted its lip. Big deal.
And Mike, with you being from Texas, you should know they don't strap up the bulls nuts to make it buck. They put a leather strap on their haunches, but they don't crush their testicles. It's a common misconception.
I don't believe in mistreating animals, but unless you are a vegetarian you really have no right to complain about being mean to critters when you consume their flesh for sustenance.
As someone who has owned several horses, I can tell you first hand that in spite of their noble appearance, those animals are dumber than a box of rocks. They have a brain the size of a walnut. They aren't called "Beasts of Burden" for nothing.
And if it makes you feel any better, horses occasionally extract a decent amount of revenge on their "tormentors". I know one guy here in town that was a very skilled horse trainer. One kick to the head was all it took to turn him into a weirdo that wanders around town talking to himself and picking up cigarette butts out of convenience store parking lots for no reason. A friend of mines father was killed by a horse about 4 months ago when a mare stuck her hoof into his chest and collapsed both his lungs. Slammed the poor guy into the outside of the horse trailer. He died in his sons arms because of that horse. I would have bludgeoned that thing to death with a pipe wrench, but the son knew how much his dad loved horses so they sold it.
mikeofaustin said:I'll tell you what... If you do ANYTHING to make me buck... Be forwarded... I might be plenty upset, and a life might just be taken.
I'm with you Hombre . The hand wringers have never dealt with large animals . We had a 400# steer get my brotherinlaw down in a sorting pen last weekend . Totally berserk and would not stop attacking him . Broke his arm , some ribs , and his nose before we killed the sob to get it off him. No remorse on our part except for b-i-l getting hurt .hombre_de_plata_flaco said:mikeofaustin said:I'll tell you what... If you do ANYTHING to make me buck... Be forwarded... I might be plenty upset, and a life might just be taken.
Do you eat meat?
If so, it doesn't make a lot of sense to approve of eating an animal and disapprove of riding the same animal for sport.
It's why I've never understood the outrage over cockfighting. It's OK to decapitate, pluck, and BBQ a chicken, but you can't fight them to the death for sport? A rooster has a brain the size of a BB and will kill any other rooster in the barnyard if left to their own devices. Cockfighting is just watching for sport what the animal is already programmed to naturally do - with the exception of the steel spurs.
I stated this in the other "cruelty" thread that got locked down, but I think that Disney cartoons featuring anthropomorphic talking mice and bears have really warped how we view animals. I know in cartoons the Care Bears like to shoot rainbows out of their cute little tummies, but here in the real world, bears will kill and eat you. Mice don't pilot steamboats and have girlfriends named Minnie. Here in reality they destroy crops and spread disease.
Again, I don't approve of starving or neglecting your pet dog or cat, but pitching a fit over a horse with a busted lip is just a little over the top IMO. The majority of animal cruelty IMO is the fur trade, veal, and sorry people who refuse to give their pet dogs and cats proper food or veterinary care. Those people you see on the animal hoarder shows are the worst violators.
mikeofaustin said:Again, ...if I'm minding my own business, and someone comes up to me and pinches me in the wrong place, understand that something might come toward your direction in the understanding that I didn't like it. If people die? We'll, that's what should be through about before they get on an animal... hence, I wouldn't care.
hombre_de_plata_flaco said:mikeofaustin said:Again, ...if I'm minding my own business, and someone comes up to me and pinches me in the wrong place, understand that something might come toward your direction in the understanding that I didn't like it. If people die? We'll, that's what should be through about before they get on an animal... hence, I wouldn't care.
These rodeo guys know the risk. They don't "pinch" these beasts expecting no reaction.
But since you eat meat, if someone herds you and your family into a trailer then offloads you into a chute and forces you to march until you are hit in the forehead with a pneumatic bolt gun, hung up, skinned, bled out, de-boned, and your flesh is ground to bits and packaged in Styrofoam, then you are OK with that.
Riding animals - bad.
Consuming dead animals flesh - OK.
Hard to argue with that logic.
SWR said:Gee... a horse has to work for eight seconds, and then two or three weeks of being pampered with absolutely nothing to do.
Long live the Rodeo.
Sniffer said:the riders do have to sign waivers before they ride, so if they get injured they can't sue anybody