Carrying a firearm while detecting

[DiggerGal]

Being an avid and pro 2nd A. Believer, there are many places I want to explore, however, I feel a bit safer with a side arm if you will. Researching many a clues, I am looking at remote wilderness areas out and away from the general public.
Licensed to "Own" a firearm is much different than the elusive, next to impossible to obtain CCW in California, to which I do not have.
Just curious on everyone's thoughts as to carrying a firearm while detecting, and, it seems as though while wearing earphones it is a little behind the eight ball so to speak (as I would be challenged to hear anything but the sounds of the detector), but, that said, I would "feel" more secure.
So, do you carry while detecting in remote areas?

 

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[SandomingoJim]

I definitely carry when I'm out detecting. I would rather have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Just my 2 cents.

 

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[Liu21]

Must be nice to be able to carry and detect, Here in NYC the fees for a C. carry permit is right under $500 finger printing and all. There is a 99% chance you wont get it, because you dont "demonstrate a NEED" for it. IT is my Right/TO defend myself is NOT sufficient of a "Need" according to NYPD... =( If things were different, i would carry, preferably a Glock 27 or 26...

 

[Pennypacker]

I have a Taurus Judge and Springfield XD .45 hidden by my bed side, both loaded..... I keep a firearm hidden all over my home, never more than couple seconds from one.....

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid.

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts", if you support these companies, you support crime in a round-about way.

 

[sjvalleyhunter]

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts"

I could write pages in response to your post completely rebutting it, but I'm going to first take a deep breath and ask you what you meant by this particular thing you said? What are you basing your statement on and what types of guns specifically are made for "enthusiasts"?

 

[BladeRunner2019]

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid.

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts", if you support these companies, you support crime in a round-about way.

I may get banned for this, but that is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Ever.

 

[asrussell96]

Ya know it just amazes me how people claim "you don't need to be able to defend yourself with a gun from a criminal when you have police" I have gotten that view a lot of times.....The problem is, unless you have a policeman / woman living with you that call will allow the cops to get there to collect your body after the criminal has killed you...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid.

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts", if you support these companies, you support crime in a round-about way.

I'm not scared, I'm armed, as is my constitutional right....I will remain armed and own as many firearms as I wish and I am more than happy to support firearm manufacturers...

"Negative Crowd", you mean the thugs, rapists, thieves, criminals, terrorists and low life's of society....

"Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid."

This is as ridiculous a statement as an idiot politician saying if America disarmed terrorists would leave us alone. ...






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[DiggerGal]

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid.

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts", if you support these companies, you support crime in a round-about way.

I really don't have a grasp on your comments at all. When you state "being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed" do you think is every registered gun owner turned in their guns that the negative crowd would just go away? Do you really believe that the crime rate due to these negative crowds would decrease? The first point you need to identify and acknowledge is people kill people; guns do not. The negative crowd will always abuse any type of power and cross every line and break every law.
As far as criminals having guns that were manufactured for enthusiasts and the support of crime by supporting these companies...oh boy...I really don't know how to start with this one, except this: read, study and read again about the history of firearms. Remington, S&W, Winchester, etc. are companies that have been manufacturing firearms for over a century. Gun enthusiasts perhaps fit a small percentage of today's owners, but moreover is the necessity of a firearm for some (provisions), Military (they protect you, your freedom and our Country from harms way), Police Officers (protection) and those of us that believe in our constitutional right to protect ourselves and our property. I live in a rural area, I have had horses, livestock, dogs etc that I have protected against the wildlife that can and will harm them if the opportunity presented itself. Without a firearm I suppose i could go out and scream at that rattlesnake in the pasture and for sure it would listen and slither away, or, perhaps I could become a rattlesnake whisperer and with sheer mental strength and concentration it would get my message, or, I could shoot it, protect my property, my animals and deactivate the threat at hand. Does this make me an enthusiast? I am not enthusiastic about killing anything, quite the contrary. But when it comes down to me and my family or the intruder (whomever or whatever), I will protect with all of my might, AND use whatever means necessary, even if that means a gun.
One thing by your post is poignantly clear: YOU should not own any type of firearm. Please do not purchase or think about purchasing one. Don't be enthusiastic about being an enthusiast at any time. Walk away and hope that no low life criminal enthusiastically approaches you or your family. Perhaps you would feel better with a slingshot? God knows a rock in the forehead wouldn't harm anyone or support any manufacturer.....I think you could even open carry if you so choose.
I think you should also write a letter to Congress. Let them know that we should disarm our police and military, they are just too enthusiastic about carrying a weapon and protecting you and your family.

 

[releventchair]

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

Plus being armed only causes the negative crowd to be more armed, it perpetuates the problems you are trying to avoid.

All the guns that criminals have were manufactured for "enthusiasts", if you support these companies, you support crime in a round-about way.

Do you support manufacturers of vehicles , knives,screwdrivers,hammers,crowbars,computers, golf clubs or any other tool or items ever used in criminal activities?

Part of my being armed is to counter criminal intent of deadly force.....standing as a pacifist does not quite counter such intent. Maybe one will kill me some day ,but my plan is to leave evidence of who dunnit in the form of leaking air and wet stuff from their body(s).
Predators here too. A decade of raising small dogs has had multiple losses by others when coyotes grab them and do unkind things to them resulting in death after not pleasant things.
The coyotes here have not acquired a meal at my expense ,yet..
Bears have just passed through , but when something grabs a dog or shows too much interest in me by closing ,and has the means and ability and intent (or is rabid) to threaten my life in a real manner ; home or away there is not time to expect a l.e.o. response in time to intervene or time to run home for a gun.

I'm not actually scared at the moment ,scarred yes , and criminals usually just go around me as I don't seem a soft target ...I guess.

 

[OWK]

What are you so scared of?

Why do you assume that someone is afraid, simply because they're assuming responsibility for the defense of themselves, their family, and their property? I really have a hard time understanding why someone WOULDN'T be responsible enough to see to their own family's defense.

The police won't and can't. They're not at the scene of crimes. They're generally called after the fact to take a report, or to attempt to solve the crime after the perpetrators have left the scene. While the perpetrator is actually ON the scene, for better or for worse, the responsibility falls to you. You can either assume that responsibility, or you can abdicate it (leaving yourself and your family at the mercy of whomever may choose to victimize you). This is your choice.

But don't denigrate those who choose to behave responsibly, because you choose otherwise.

 

[Liu21]

Guys there will always be one of those people that say you dont need a gun, because you have a phone.... let them be. Be proud that you will not stand and wait for someone with a gun to come and help you.

 

[GA_Boy]

The Wife and I both carry all our waking hours unless where prohibited ( Gubmint buildings, Casinos, Schools etc. We don't frequent bars so need to worry about that.
I've pulled twice and shot once in self defense. 911 calls aren't very good when immediate action is required.
Marvin

 

[Pennypacker]

Hi there.

"What are you basing your statement on and what types of guns specifically are made for "enthusiasts"? "

Well, as far as I'm aware, there is no manufacturer that mass produces guns specifically specifically for criminals in the US. Since murder is illegal, and most forms of sport hunting ban the use of handguns, this leaves only firearms marketed to the enthusiast group. These are the guns that the criminals will shoot you with.

Rather then address the specific responses about shovels etc. and that people kill people and not guns, just realize its the culture you are grooming and perpetuating.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

We carry when detecting because it is a constitutional right and we choose to protect ourselves and our families rather than call 911 and wait 20 mins for someone with a gun to arrive and draw a chalk line around us or a family member.. We choose to decide who the chalk line is drawn around.




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[NC Digger]

Hi there.

"What are you basing your statement on and what types of guns specifically are made for "enthusiasts"? "

Well, as far as I'm aware, there is no manufacturer that mass produces guns specifically specifically for criminals in the US. Since murder is illegal, and most forms of sport hunting ban the use of handguns, this leaves only firearms marketed to the enthusiast group. These are the guns that the criminals will shoot you with.

Rather then address the specific responses about shovels etc. and that people kill people and not guns, just realize its the culture you are grooming and perpetuating.

The only thing I have learned through the years is that the anti gun crowd finds it ok to have body gaurds. And they "Pray to God that the man with the Gun gets there in time to save their Butt"

As it is my God given right to carry a side arm, it is also your God given right not to. You will always have criminals, and we will always have a way to persuade them in another direction.

 

[SeabeeRon]

What are you so scared of?

It's not like all of the people you banned over the years are lying in the weeds...

 

[USMC Reaper]

Amendment II of our Constitution has to do with the power of the people to violently overthrow our government should it become tyrannical. Being able to double tap idiots, when necessary, is just a happy byproduct of that amendment. If someone lacks the testicular fortitude to be able to fulfill their constitutional duty to our great Republic they can mope their behinds to the back of the beta male bus and let the professionals take care of business like they/we have been doing since, and before, the inception of our Nation. These days when in conversation concerning these matters I tend to warn my ideological adversaries that the slope of association/support/collaboration is slippery and treacherous to say the least.

 

[JackalopeZL1]

should it become tyrannical. .

Pretty sure it is already there, Just brought on slowly and people have acclimated, Maybe just not to the level that folks are ready to take up arms?? I am saddened every day what our country has become.

 

[68kaiser]

Its my second amendment right. Constitution is my law. Got nothing else to say.

 

[DiggerGal]

Hi there.

"What are you basing your statement on and what types of guns specifically are made for "enthusiasts"? "

Well, as far as I'm aware, there is no manufacturer that mass produces guns specifically specifically for criminals in the US. Since murder is illegal, and most forms of sport hunting ban the use of handguns, this leaves only firearms marketed to the enthusiast group. These are the guns that the criminals will shoot you with.

Rather then address the specific responses about shovels etc. and that people kill people and not guns, just realize its the culture you are grooming and perpetuating.

Culture begins in the home and with "Parenting". Our Country began with our forefathers before us and continues with our men and women today that serve and protect so we may carry out the freedoms of life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The behavior that is occurring today is unfathomable. In the recent years, violence has become more and more prevalent, however, it's not because of guns. Guns have been around longer than any of us alive.



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