- Apr 18, 2016
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It does because it discs out the ground minerals that start to overtake the DEEP target and those minerals are why you hear the iron grunt on the edge of the signals, found the same to be true with my primary detector too.. I know it doesn't increase depth per se but it does disc out the ground minerals that are trying to overtake the target at depth which lets the signal clean up... Andy Sabich says that disc increases depth on the deus and ive found it to be true on that machine too.....I was always on Johns line of thinking too , ran my at pro with zero disc but you in see the video which one hits the extreme deep silver better.. NO DISC ? LOW DISC? OR HIGH DISC? I have always heard the less disc the better too but sometimes in testing on targets ,you find things that go against the grain... I will test the max at full disc and see if it effects depth..
Ive always heard that too BUT on the MAX I could find no depth loss on it with disc wide open on coins... I have tried it on my primary detector tooo and couldn't find a depth loss with a high disc. I did find it on that detector when it was almost wide open. I shot a video too will post it...
Hi Calabsh,
Iāve seen all your videos and i honestly think theyāre not as good as they could be.
I really appreciate when people publish videos about ālearning the new machinesā and I like to share my experiences as well, but it really seems you just got the Max, you donāt even know its sounds, the best settings, and in general how to use it, but you are trying to compare it to other detecotrs or somehow to teach to other people how to use it and if itās good or not. Iām using my Max since 3 months and I feel like iām starting to understand it better and discoever its potential only now.
From you videos it seems that you judge it withouth even knowing it.
An example that itās pretty ridicoule for me (and for everyone who know how it really works): in one of your videos you say that it cannot recognize a silver coin if itās more that 9 inches deep (while your Deus obviously goes to 13...).. well thatās totally not true as i digged smaller silver coins at 12 with no problema using the right settings.
I like to watch videos, but please, before wearing the teacher jacket, learn the machine, because from your videos people could actually think that the At Max is a mediocre machine, when actually to unveil its potential, you simply need to know it more than you do.
Ah, Iām sure that if you enable comments in your youtube page, a lot of people will tell you the exact same stuff that I just wrote (and probably in a better english ).
Not a destructive critic, just something i wanted to say.
Another example: high disc doesnāt āclean the signalā, it just cut off the sound from the iron crackling that can come out every single time that a good target is deeper that 5 inches. So if you know the Maxās sounds you know that when a target is deep even when itās good it can sound like iron on the edge and send a good small sound in the middle.. proportional audio helps in this, but it takes time to learn: when deeper than 5 inches just one good vdi number with a good sound alternated to jumpy numbers and iron sound, could be a silver coin, dig it. Setting iron disc to 44 can make you loose good targets. So, instead of setting the metal detector to to high disc levels to please my ears, i would suggest to learn and accept crackling sounds on deep targets..
As i said before, mine is not a destructive critic to him, but to how he started to share videos as ātutorialsā when he actually didnāt know anything about the machine.
For my experience and from all the other guys who actually owned an At Pro, or an At Gold those detectors are reaaaly different from the At Max and a lot of people even say that passing from the Pro to the Max takes even more time, making the learning curve bigger as thereās an expectations bias based on the fact that starting from the sound, to how they react, the machines look the same but theyāre totally different.
Another example: high disc doesnāt āclean the signalā, it just cut off the sound from the iron crackling that can come out every single time that a good target is deeper that 8 inches. So if you know the Maxās sounds you know that when a target is deep even when itās good it can sound like iron on the edge and send a good small sound in the middle.. proportional audio helps in this, but it takes time to learn: when deeper than 5 inches just one good vdi number with a good sound alternated to jumpy numbers and iron sound, could be a silver coin, dig it. Setting iron disc to 44 can make you loose good targets. So, instead of setting the metal detector to to high disc levels to please my ears, i would suggest to learn and accept crackling sounds on deep targets..
Well, as i said iām not a master in this and iām not trying to teach anything, this is just my experience and i like to share it as it could be useful for others.. iām just not creating a tutorial on it. (And i wouldnāt have done it especially the first week with the Max, when i still needed to figure out a lot of things).
Well, itās not 3 months in the detecting world, those are the months spent with the Max.
Believe me I love to watch videos and learn from other people, every week i search for new At Max videos to learn something new and when i learn, i do like to share my opinion and experiences.
Iāve never criticized any of the videos iāve seen, but this time, these videos (especially the first ones) gave me the impression of someone comparing detectors using one of them at half of its potential and showing results withouth knowing the best settings.
Again I loved to watch other users videos and it never came into my mind to move any critic, thereās a reason i did this time and probably togheter with all that i said before, maybe the āteachingā attitude that i felt made me soundā harshyā in the comments..didnāt mean to, nothin personal Calabash.