Eagles and SE Native Americans

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This post is actually in response to a now closed thread regarding the controversy surrounding Eagle and /or Thunderbird fake artifacts. Though I know nothing of the validity of any such artifacts, I do know that Eagles were very important to certain Southeastern tribal cultures. If you go to Google Earth and type in these coordinates: 37 25'19.1"N 122 05' 06"W (Old Federal Road, Ball Ground GA) Look to the left and you will see an amazing eagle beak land outline / effigy. The County actually calls it the Eagles Beak Property and is turning it into a park. As far as anyone knows the property has had that appearance for a very long time.

Below is an interesting tidbit re an actual bird effigy in the SE:
Rock Eagle Effigy Mound is an archaeological site in Putnam County, Georgia, U.S.A. estimated to have been constructed 1,000 to 3,000 years ago. The earthwork was built up of thousands of pieces of quartzite laid in the mounded shape of a large bird (102 ft long from head to tail, and 120 ft wide from wing tip to wing tip). Although it is most often referred to as an eagle, scholars do not know exactly what type of bird the original builders intended to portray. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places (NRHP) because of its significance. The University of Georgia administers the site. It uses much of the adjoining land for a 4-H camp, with cottages and other buildings, and day and residential environmental education.
What prompted the early inhabitants of Middle Georgia, who lived in a time long before the rise of the later Mississippian, Creek and Cherokee cultures, to build these massive effigy mounds is still something of a mystery. They obviously hold ceremonial significance and the Rock Eagle seems to have been expanded from a large dome-
 

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I have seen it on the web but havent ever visited it. I believe it is the only one like it ever found.
 

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If you read a little further into The Rock Eagle effigy mound and also view archaeological reports .. it starts to become evident.. at least in my mind that it is a depiction of a buzzard not an eagle... and is associated with the southeastern ceremonial complex...also known as the Southeastern death cult and sometimes referred to as the Buzzard Cult..... along with the other effigy mound in the same county.
The buzzard was a symbol of death and archaeologists have found evidence of at least one human cremation on top of that mound.
 

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I guess Rock Buzzard Effigy Mound just doesn't sound as appealing.
 

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second photograph is a wonderful example of looting.
that is what it looks like..

it appears someone dug a trench lengthwise in the center of the bird...one stone knife found...how sad.
 

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Some folks apparently also belived they were sure gold Treasure was burried under it.
 

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I have driven by the property in the Google Earth photo, several times. It is farmland with the Etowah River running around it. Not sure about looting or trench cutting but I expect there will be a lot more disturbance since the county is going to put a very large park there.
 

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The eagle is also sacred for the western tribes as well. Just in case you didn't know. Not even supposed to have in possession an eagle feather unless Native American. They are used in ceremonial dress and rituals.
 

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Some tribes believe the eagle is a direct connection to the spirit world where the sun is at the center... almost sounds like astrology don't it?
 

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Yes, the blindness of the uneducated mind never ceases to amaze.
 

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The blindness of the uneducated mind posting was in reference to people digging up effigies and mounds to find gold!
 

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The blindness of the uneducated mind posting was in reference to people digging up effigies and mounds to find gold!

I hope you didn't think I was opposing you in that way.
This was a great post on a a worthy subject.. I just tossed in a little more info on that particular Counties mounds.
 

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As I am sure you know, the SECC was not a single entity but encompassed and included many manifestations of the Mississippian Period. Nor was it a cult in the true sense of the modern word.
 

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The eagle is also sacred for the western tribes as well. Just in case you didn't know. Not even supposed to have in possession an eagle feather unless Native American. They are used in ceremonial dress and rituals.

even a native American best have the correct numbers an papers on a feather...highly restricted objects...
 

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Its illegal here to have a Hawk feather in your hands. They will lock you up fast for having one they figure you probably killed it. I dont pick up feathers if I see one.
 

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Well anyway, I guess it is surprising that there are not more bird type artifacts found in the SE since birds of many types were important. However, bird symbolism was used on pottery and petroglyphs. I recently made a trip to Track Rock Gap (bird and animal tracks in soft soapstone, very old) which is a sacred site for my ancestors and I could not even get in. The National Park Service has let it become overgrown to keep people out. Because of looters and vandals a site that is supposed to be open to the public is virtually impossible to get to. Sad because ever person of Native American descent is allowed the right to visit any site considered sacred regardless of tribal affiliation.
 

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