eyeballed copper sheathing on Treasure coast beach.

[GatorBoy]

Found this nice example today south of Frederick Douglas bch.

 

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[FriscoT06]

That is very interesting! You're in the right spot! Thanks for posting!

 

[GatorBoy]

Sure thanks

 

[JKPK1]

Stupid question and please understand it is your copper find so it is your story of where it came from, but do homes in the area require copper flashing like in Palm Beach?

Again your find and story so it can be whatever you want it to be.

PK

 

[GatorBoy]

No they don't. Also.. I've worked construction here for twenty years and never saw a single piece of copper flashing... please explain. E whatever I want it to be... if you have something to say...say it. I'm no stupid kid. I remember the bad boy club logo in your avitar from the early nineties ..I surfed NSSA and ESA and thought it was ridiculous then.

 

[BeachComber7]

JKPK1, usually the 'tell' is the holes in the copper. Square holes equal a shipwreck piece of copper sheathing from what I have learned over the last year and the square holes are visible in GatorBoy's piece and the pieces I have recently found along the beaches. From which ship, who knows since so many went down along Florida.

 

[PhipsFolly]

The initial use of copper hull sheathing was by the British Royal Navy in the 1750's and there are several English wrecks in the area mentioned in this thread. And the square nail hole reference is also correct and is evident here. Just my two cents, but I would agree that this find does appear to be shipwreck related.

 

[FISHEYE]

Copper sheathing has been put on the tops of pilings with square cut nails.

 

[Salvor6]

Looks new to me. Also on the left and right are die formed folds. The kind used to make ribs to strengthen the copper sheet and prevent it from bending.

 

[GatorBoy]

Remind me never to bother with this forum. Happy hunting.

 

[FISHEYE]

You would be surprised at what blows off the tops of houses and docks and ends up on the beach during and after a big storm.Not everything found on the beach is from a shipwreck.

 

[GatorBoy]

I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. There is an anchor from the late 1700's just off shore and to the north of where I picked this up and I also have a section of rigging from the same beach. I've done my research and have been doing this for years. Have fun guys.

 

[FISHEYE]

Post a pic of the rigging you found.That can be dated.

 

[PhipsFolly]

I hate to say it Gator but it does look modern... I didn't get a good look at your find until I got home and pulled up the photo on my home computer. I was looking at it on my cellphone originally and it was hard to tell...

It doesn't seem to have the "proper" patina for what it's age would be as shipwreck material and the folded edges don't "fit" for having been a square of hull sheathing.

I however was unaware that square nails were being used to secure copper flashing to pilings... Learn something new every day... Never really paid much attention to pilings other than to avoid hitting them with my boat... Hehehe.

Anyway Gator, when you ask people for their opinions on this forum, usually you will get some decent responses mixed in with some not so great ones sometimes. I don't think the guys who responded to your inquiry about this find are being misleading or are trying to rain on your parade so don't be offended by their responses. There are lots of people with varied experience levels on here henceforth, their responses to your inquiries will be varied... But I have found that those that are genuine and knowledgeable here have been most informative.

 

[mad4wrecks]

For my two cents, I think it is a piece of copper sheeting from a shipwreck. Coincidentally, I was doing an inventory of 10 tubs of uncleaned artifacts I have at home and came across the following piece, discovered at Douglas Beach (offshore) in 1992. Several square nail holes in it. Tom

 

[GatorBoy]

That piece as well as mine appear to be from the bow section. That's how it was finished. Here is the rigging. Also..I don't know how it sounded when I posted but..I wasn't looking for an answer to anything. Just. Simply posted an artifact.







Here is a couple more of the sheathing just for you guys... the folds that someone thinks our modern are nothing more then where the copper is bent from the ocean prying it back and forth until it finally came off. this piece is also split down the middle because that's where it gave after spending a long time in a bent position on the bow.

 

[FriscoT06]

Great pics! Love that rigging! Hope to see more pics of your finds later down the road!

 

[GatorBoy]

Will do..thank you

 

[GatorBoy]

One more item from the same area. Mabey one of you can help me with this one as I'm still researching it. It appears to me to be a..or at least a part of a medallion. I could be wrong but from a slight bit of white oxidation it may be lead. I belive the Spanish did have lead medallions though I have little info other than seeing a couple in a St.lucie county museum. I'm sorry if I sounded crass on this thread but all those responces should have been directed at a newbee..which I suppose was assumed.

 

[Darren in NC]

GatorBoy, perhaps it could have been in a fire. It looks like it may have been melted from it's original form.