FRENCH COLONIAL COPPER, DOUBLE Spanish Silver, and Military!

BuckleBoy

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Hello All,

It's been quite a busy two day hunt for us. Let me just say that you will want to see the video. In the past 48 hours we have added TWO to our Spanish silver total (for a total of 11 this year!), I dug my oldest coin ever, and I got a scarce War of 1812 button that I have never seen one of posted on this forum before!

So here's the story...


I met up with Shanegalang to do some "boots on the ground" time tracking down a new site. We found the site, although it was small and sparse with finds. I dug the military button not long into the hunt, and suspected it was military, but didn't know for certain until I got home. It turned out to be a Regiment of Artillerists button 1811-1813. This is a type that I have not personally dug before, and have not seen posted on the forum. Later on, Old Shanegalang got a nice 1797 one real! Then we got up early the next day and put another all-day hunt in. The finds were thin, but they were there. I dug two pocket watch winders, several interesting flat buttons, and eyeballed a trade bead. But really it was 8 hours into the hunt before anything decent was dug. (Mainly because I didn't recognize my oldest coin when I dug it--I thought it was a brass washer due to the hole in the center!). I got a nice 1831 Mexican Republic one real to end the day, and only upon cleaning and investigating my random brass bits from the field did I see the date on the coin I dug--1722!!!! :hello2:

Folks, always, Always, ALWAYS clean your random brass/junk finds! Only throw away or recycle things that you are certain are junk. If I had tossed that handful of brass into the trash, or the recycling bin I would've never known!

Here are the photos of these great finds, and a link to the video. :)



Here's the 1Real Shane dug:

1R Shan.jpg 1R Shan rev.jpg

And the Regiment of Artillerists button I dug. It was nice that the shank was attached. :headbang:

Regt Art.JPG

A nice civilian two-piece gilded button:

gilt.JPG

The backmark on this large sized flat button was interesting (eagle and banner):

HPIM4069.JPG


Now for three eyeball finds. First, a "Russian Blue" trade bead:

HPIM4066.JPG

A very short (1.5" long) grey clay pipe with the bowl broken off:

pipe.JPG

And a large two-hole button made of bone:

HPIM4070.JPG

My beautiful 1Real. It's nice to finally dig a cap and rays style Real. Shane has dug a cap and rays Big 8, and an eye-popping 2Reales.

1R obv.JPG 1R rev.JPG

And my French 9 Deniers copper. It is a Colonies Francoises copper dated 1722 ("H" mintmark). These were made specifically for French colonial possessions, and thus they saw limited circulation in Canada and French Louisiana. I am absolutely thrilled to dig this (you can tell by the photo why I didn't think much of it out in the field!). Recovering something French Colonial was a major goal of mine down here. If you are not familiar with these coins, you will want to read the 1-page article in the link below from CoinWorld. It describes this coin as "America's first copper." (the link takes a moment to load.)

First 'American' coppers | Coin World

It appears that these coppers are very seldom dug.

obv.JPG

Here's a non-dug example for comparison (click the photo to enlarge it):

collage.jpg

And here is a photo of all the finds. I actually dug the spout off a Colonial Era copper teapot! Crazy!

HPIM4072.JPG

Here's a Georgian Teapot that is almost an exact match to the spout I dug. The auction house lists this as c.1760-1800, English-made:

c.1760-1800, English.jpg

The Lewis & Tomes flat button above the clay pipe bowl is a beauty. Almost all of its gilding remains.

HPIM4075.JPG


Best Wishes,


Buck
 

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Amazing Finds & Great Job Bandits! Love the War of 1812 button, Spanish & Mexican Silver! Big Congrats on the 291 year old French Colonial Copper and the trade bead! I think you're getting that Cajun Accent down :laughing7: Incredible hunts again, Keep it up!
 

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Had a skunk hunt yesterday. 8 hours for four flat buttons... So we do have our "off" days. I just don't usually make a video and post for finds like that.

Thanks to Everyone for their replies!


Regards,


Buck
 

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Fantastic hunt !! The French colonial is indeed a rare recovery, and the only other foliated 'RA' I've seen is one I dug,
no comparison to yours for detail, saltwater you know,
it was more a matter of determining what script buttons it was not,
more than what it was. (but it really is ) :laughing9:
Congrats on the Spaniards, civilian buttons and that beautiful bead .
A first seen on that style clay pipe too.
I posted my first teapot spout as an earhorn :laughing7: (it did lack the cloven tip)
Good show, Congrats !!!
 

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Fantastic hunt !! The French colonial is indeed a rare recovery, and the only other foliated 'RA' I've seen is one I dug,
no comparison to yours for detail, saltwater you know,
it was more a matter of determining what script buttons it was not,
more than what it was. (but it really is ) :laughing9:
Congrats on the Spaniards, civilian buttons and that beautiful bead .
A first seen on that style clay pipe too.
I posted my first teapot spout as an earhorn :laughing7: (it did lack the cloven tip)
Good show, Congrats !!!

Thanks so very much for your reply, my friend! Yeah, I totally thought that teapot spot was an ear trumpet too! Even at the car, I was joking with Shane and held it up to my ear. :D
 

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Thanks so very much for your reply, my friend! Yeah, I totally thought that teapot spot was an ear trumpet too! Even at the car, I was joking with Shane and held it up to my ear. :D
That is too funny :laughing9:
One day my Girl Laurie eyeballed a brass item on a rocky shoreline, resembles a teapot spout, but way too big...
Think it's part of a steam whistle :dontknow: HH Guys !!
 

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BuckleBoy = Great hunt!! I also found my 1 real in very close vicinity to a blue trade bead. What are the odds of that???

HH
 

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BuckleBoy = Great hunt!! I also found my 1 real in very close vicinity to a blue trade bead. What are the odds of that???

HH

Not so good in Ohio! I don't think I ever found a trade bead in Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee, or Virginia. Great work!

Best Wishes,

Buck
 

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:icon_thumright: Oodles of awesome find! Geat Post!!! I like all of the non-metalic relics mixed in there as well. :icon_thumleft:
 

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that's like relic heaven!!!!
 

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Hello All,

It's been quite a busy two day hunt for us. Let me just say that you will want to see the video. In the past 48 hours we have added TWO to our Spanish silver total (for a total of 11 this year!), I dug my oldest coin ever, and I got a scarce War of 1812 button that I have never seen one of posted on this forum before!

So here's the story...

I met up with Shanegalang to do some "boots on the ground" time tracking down a new site. We found the site, although it was small and sparse with finds. I dug the military button not long into the hunt, and suspected it was military, but didn't know for certain until I got home. It turned out to be a Regiment of Artillerists button 1811-1813. This is a type that I have not personally dug before, and have not seen posted on the forum. Later on, Old Shanegalang got a nice 1797 one real! Then we got up early the next day and put another all-day hunt in. The finds were thin, but they were there. I dug two pocket watch winders, several interesting flat buttons, and eyeballed a trade bead. But really it was 8 hours into the hunt before anything decent was dug. (Mainly because I didn't recognize my oldest coin when I dug it--I thought it was a brass washer due to the hole in the center!). I got a nice 1831 Mexican Republic one real to end the day, and only upon cleaning and investigating my random brass bits from the field did I see the date on the coin I dug--1722!!!! :hello2:

Folks, always, Always, ALWAYS clean your random brass/junk finds! Only throw away or recycle things that you are certain are junk. If I had tossed that handful of brass into the trash, or the recycling bin I would've never known!

Here are the photos of these great finds, and a link to the video. :)

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwLW7AIbKic&feature=youtu.be

Here's the 1Real Shane dug:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798980"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798981"/>

And the Regiment of Artillerists button I dug. It was nice that the shank was attached. :headbang:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798983"/>

A nice civilian two-piece gilded button:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798984"/>

The backmark on this large sized flat button was interesting (eagle and banner):

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=799017"/>

Now for three eyeball finds. First, a "Russian Blue" trade bead:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798985"/>

A very short (1.5" long) grey clay pipe with the bowl broken off:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798986"/>

And a large two-hole button made of bone:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=799016"/>

My beautiful 1Real. It's nice to finally dig a cap and rays style Real. Shane has dug a cap and rays Big 8, and an eye-popping 2Reales.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798988"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798989"/>

And my French 9 Deniers copper. It is a Colonies Francoises copper dated 1722 ("H" mintmark). These were made specifically for French colonial possessions, and thus they saw limited circulation in Canada and French Louisiana. I am absolutely thrilled to dig this (you can tell by the photo why I didn't think much of it out in the field!). Recovering something French Colonial was a major goal of mine down here. If you are not familiar with these coins, you will want to read the 1-page article in the link below from CoinWorld. It describes this coin as "America's first copper." (the link takes a moment to load.)

First 'American' coppers | Coin World

It appears that these coppers are very seldom dug.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798991"/>

Here's a non-dug example for comparison (click the photo to enlarge it):

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=798993"/>

And here is a photo of all the finds. I actually dug the spout off a Colonial Era copper teapot! Crazy!

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=799014"/>

Here's a Georgian Teapot that is almost an exact match to the spout I dug. The auction house lists this as c.1760-1800, English-made:

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=799099"/>

The Lewis & Tomes flat button above the clay pipe bowl is a beauty. Almost all of its gilding remains.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=799015"/>

Best Wishes,

Buck

Awesome site, great finds , great video
 

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Looks like you had an awesome outing. Congrats!!
 

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awesome hunt! I've only dug one 1722 denier.i never realized how uncommon they were
 

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awesome hunt! I've only dug one 1722 denier.i never realized how uncommon they were

Yeah, I don't think they come up very often. I've seen two posted on Tnet since I joined back in 2006. One of them I identified as I recall.

Cheers,


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WOW!!! What an awesome hunt! Can't wait to see the video.
 

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Just an outstanding post & pics Buck! :occasion14:
Cool story line and great pics of the goodies, it doesn't get much better than that!

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Just an outstanding post & pics Buck! :occasion14:
Cool story line and great pics of the goodies, it doesn't get much better than that!

Dave

Hey Dave,

Good to hear from you. I'm glad you enjoyed the post. I certainly enjoy seeing what you dig up North. That engraved ring you dug was a first rate find!

Cheers,

Buck
 

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