Gods country gone to hell and turned into a garbage pile in less than 200 years

[IMAUDIGGER]

I feel the whole rubber thing falls under two catagories...

1. Cheaper materials.

2. Increasing U.V.

scientists analyzing 30 years of satellite data have found that the amount of ultraviolet (UV) radiation reaching Earth's surface has increased markedly over the last three decades.

The primary culprit: "decreasing levels of stratospheric ozone, a colorless gas that acts as Earth’s natural sunscreen by shielding the surface from damaging UV radiation."

That pesky hole in the ozone layer cropped its head back up again?

How does that explain why the tires rot when in storage and all the hoses rot under the hood of my truck so quickly?

What's funny..I've seen OEM hoses from 1956 be perfectly serviceable. While replacement hoses start rotting within 12 months many times.

 

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[BillA]

silicone hoses the way to go, once

 

[ARC]

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/uv-exposure.html

 

[BillA]

I guess you read it ?

" Most of the increase has occurred in the mid-and-high latitudes, and there's been little or no increase in tropical regions.

so one can compare high and low exposure areas

"Despite the overall increases, there are clear signs that ultraviolet radiation levels are on the verge of falling.

so the tempest is still confined to the teapot ?

has the temporary exposure been harmful ?
and to whom ?

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

We should all agree that statistics can be presented to support a point of view by simple omission of additional data.

For instance could cleaner air contribute to increased UV Radiation?
Could measurements have been skewed by solar cycle peaks?

The solar cycle dramatically affects the UV radiation.

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

silicone hoses the way to go, once

I've read you can't use silicone hose for any application where it might be exposed to gas/oil.

 

[BillA]

changed way too many hoses, always at the worst of times
now partial to steel, ss, ss + teflon, etc
most problems do have a known solution

yes, no hydrocarbons I recall

 

[Megalodon]

I feel the whole rubber thing falls under two catagories...

1. Cheaper materials.

2. Increasing U.V.

scientists analyzing 30 years of satellite data have found that the amount of ultraviolet (UV) radiation reaching Earth's surface has increased markedly over the last three decades.

The primary culprit: "decreasing levels of stratospheric ozone, a colorless gas that acts as Earth’s natural sunscreen by shielding the surface from damaging UV radiation."

I've been using 303 Aerospace Protectant on rubber and plastic exposed to the sun including tires. Its supposed to be a sunscreen for rubber and plastic. I know there are several factors contributing to cracked dashboards but I hate that look, so the occasional application of 303 is worth the chance that it might help. I've had 15 y.o. boat trailer tires in the garage that look better than the same model tires kept outdoors after 3 or 4 years.

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

changed way too many hoses, always at the worst of times
now partial to steel, ss, ss + teflon, etc
most problems do have a known solution

yes, no hydrocarbons I recall

Thanks to the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 we have fuel that aside from having a limited shelf life of 3-6 months..also eats up rubber hoses and gaskets inside older vehicles.

Interesting fact - the top 10 corn producing states account for 38% of the electoral votes.
I wonder if that had anything to do with using corn to fuel our vehicles?

Now that we are the worlds top exporter of oil...I wonder if they will do away with the corn fuel program..?

 

[Megalodon]

Thanks to the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 we have fuel that aside from having a limited shelf life of 3-6 months..also eats up rubber hoses and gaskets inside older vehicles.

Interesting fact - the top 10 corn producing states account for 38% of the electoral votes.
I wonder if that had anything to do with using corn to fuel our vehicles?

Now that we are the worlds top exporter of oil...I wonder if they will do away with the corn fuel program..?

I think you already know the answer to that question - since the answer is your second sentence!

I won't put ethanol gas in my boats, or any small two strokes.

 

[ticndig]

That pesky hole in the ozone layer cropped its head back up again?

How does that explain why the tires rot when in storage and all the hoses rot under the hood of my truck so quickly?

What's funny..I've seen OEM hoses from 1956 be perfectly serviceable. While replacement hoses start rotting within 12 months many times.

its called failure by design . not made to last ,they're made to sell

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Tell me about it...

Every hurricane season I get a hundo's worth of gas just for generator in case loss of power.

No power loss... ?

Then I am handling my 6 gallon cans into anything that will burn it so as to not waste it.

Last year... I gave away 30 gallons from the year before... guy came back and said it was still good.

Go figure :/

I still want to know about your avatar picture...is it just a picture ripped from the Internet or is that you holding that gold?

 

[Doubter in MD]

Fun fact:

"Iron Eyes Cody" who played the Native American in this 1970s ad was actually an Italian-American.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody

Weird. Where did I hear that before?

 

[chub]

Weird. Where did I hear that before?

page 2,3,4,5,6,7

chub

 

[BillA]

page 2,3,4,5,6,7

chub

at what? 10/pg - try 50

 

[ARC]

22, 30, 53, 55, 56, and 16

 

[Harvest]

GOOD INTENTIONS - MINUS WISDOM. = result. EVIL

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

GOOD INTENTIONS - MINUS WISDOM. = result. EVIL

That about sums up 80% of the laws on the books.

 

[Bum Luck]

That about sums up 80% of the laws on the books.

Got that right.

The problem with writing laws is that you can't just "do it". The Real World is more complex.

The process is usually started by someone's bad behavior as reported in a newspaper or on TV, and goes downhill from there.

I am always reminded of Holmes' back-handed statement to Watson, "My dear Watson, you were born to be a man of action. Your instinct is always to do something energetic.”

 

[Megalodon]

Got that right.

The problem with writing laws is that you can't just "do it". The Real World is more complex.

The process is usually started by someone's bad behavior as reported in a newspaper or on TV, and goes downhill from there.

I am always reminded of Holmes' back-handed statement to Watson, "My dear Watson, you were born to be a man of action. Your instinct is always to do something energetic.”

I agree that simply passing a law, even a well-intentioned law, is not enough. We need understanding of a fair process, the science behind the law and "buy-in" for the law to achieve its objectives.

Late in my career, I was assigned what I thought would be an impossible task - to manage some species that are considered "data poor" species. It was a lot of work, but I included everyone, including stakeholders who were previously ignored, in the process. The guy coming in late, covered with fish slime and diesel fuel - I insisted that he sat beside me. I admitted what we knew and what we did not know and treated people fairly. I didn't get everything that I personally wanted - but I understood that the process was about more than only what I wanted. The process took years. The management was successful and there was buy-in because I was trusted. A few years ago, I received a surprise award by a neighboring state for "Democracy in Conservation Biology". On my long drive home that night, I realized that receiving such an award exposed me to being fired by an administration that despises both democracy and conservation biology. So I chose to retire rather than allow some evil politician/political appointee to fire me for doing the right thing for the people of the state and the natural resources. Those of us with integrity face this choice often today. I never thought that I'd ever see top principled scientists escorted to the door at gunpoint in the US because they saved a species through fair policies, regulations and laws.