HUGE pile of colonial relics from multiple sites w/ many unique items +17 coins

Bill D. (VA)

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I know I’m guilty of not having posted any finds for quite some time, but I’ve been incredibly busy with digging at several productive sites, cleaning and ID’ing finds, training for a marathon relay, working in the yard, finishing up the first phase of a major project I’ve been working on for months, etc, and just haven’t had a spare moment to put together anything on my recent recoveries. So I’m now finally making the time, and I apologize for the length of this catch-up post, but it’s necessary to give these items the attention they deserve.

I’m not going to get into the specific details of any of these sites except to say one was local, and the others were outside of my normal territory. And they saw occupancy anywhere from the 1600s to the turn-of-the-century. But I only spent time hunting those spots that were producing something colonial, and walked away from several early 1900s sites that weren’t of interest to me. Multiple hotspots were located at each site, and the quantity and quality of the recoveries was surprisingly good. Buttons, as usual, were the big winner with well over 100 found followed by a big pile of musketballs of all sizes. But an astounding total of 17 coins were dug at these sites including 8 colonial silvers. And this finally allowed me to break the jinx on cut coins that has plagued me since I went to that “CUT SLVR” license plate last fall:hello2:. Some great individual finds were also recovered, and these will be highlighted below. But first, here’s a couple group shots of the overall finds made at these sites over the last month or so. The first pic was uploaded as a huge file so you can zoom in multiple times to get a good, up-close look at the items.

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Next are the coins. The silvers are all small and many are not in good condition, but after a very slow season they are quite welcomed and appreciated. They included 4 cut pieces, 1 cob, and 3 half reales (2 are slicks). And the 9 coppers consisted of 1 KG2, 2 Va halfpennies, 1 draped bust LC (1798), 1 classic head LC (1810), 2 matron head LCs, a counterstamped LC (with the Roman numeral “XII”), and one slick.

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Probably my favorite find overall was a Royal Edinburgh Volunteers 80[SUP]th[/SUP] Regiment of Foot button. This unit saw action during the siege at Yorktown during the final days of the Revolutionary War, and this one piece officer’s button displays an incised “80” which still retains much of its original gilt.

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Another awesome find was this 17[SUP]th[/SUP] century seal matrix displaying a coat of arms that was identified by my UK friend Kev as belonging to the Fleetwood family who first came to Jamestown in 1609.

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A long-time friend of mine also helped with another ID, and passed along this artifact to an expert who identified it as Jesuit fur trade type cross, although those are usually found well NW of Virginia. But this one could possibly date as far back as 1570 when the Jesuits were documented as having traveled up the James River, and made a couple stops, including in the vicinity of where the cross was found (not far from Jamestown), while attempting to establish a Spanish mission in the New World. That’s the only way I can figure it could have been lost here.

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One of the very first finds I made at one of the sites was a Bristol merchant’s trade token dated 1670 minted in brass, and these are extremely difficult to find on this side of the pond. On the obverse are the large letters “CB” for ”CIVITAS BRISTOL” and “A BRISTOL FARTHING.” And on the reverse “THE ARMES OF BRISTOL (Coat of Arms) with a sailing ship going left issuing from a castle. Very cool find although it did not clean up that well.

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Never found one of these before either. It’s an oval cuff button depicting an image of George III with the inscription “The King” across the top.

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I also have never recovered a colonial book clasp, and this one could date as far back as the 1600s and may have been used on a family Bible.

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This is a cool early buckle with maker’s mark “IA” on the chape, but so far I’ve been unable to determine the bucklemaker. It was probably a stud chape style buckle with the stud broken off, and probably dates from 1690 to 1720.

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I always love recovering these mid-1600s fig-shaped spoon bowls with maker’s mark, and this one displays a lovely green patina along with a good portion of the stem. It came from a 14" depth.

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This find isn’t all that unique as I’ve found several previously, but a late 18[SUP]th[/SUP] century bullion weight is always a nice recovery.

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I’ve really become interested in early lead tokens, and many just had random lines etched on both sides. But one I recovered has the image of a Spanish cross on one side and resembles an early cob.

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Another couple of 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century military buttons found at separate sites include this early navy and CW era Virginia coat with a Scovill Waterbury backmark.

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Lastly, here are a couple of decorative, gilted buttons that cleaned up quite nicely.

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And here are a few other random pics from the field …..

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With the weeds quickly taking over, and planting not far off, this may be the end of my season. But it was quite a way to conclude what was otherwise a rather slow last few months. Now back to my big project ….

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gheenoe78

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Good lord those are some nice finds. Banner vote for the 80th regiment button though. Haven't seen one like that posted recently and the condition is excellent. Great finds!
 

mangum

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Wow Bill! You've been doing great! The Rev War button is killer & the seal matrix is quite the find especially with the history behind it. I would say you are very lucky but I know you put in loads of time doing research & it pays off!
 

Steve in PA

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Wow, you have been moved to the Best Finds forum! I guess you saved up too many hunts :dontknow:
 

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Bill you da Man. Congratulations on all those great finds! Wow!
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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Wow, you have been moved to the Best Finds forum! I guess you saved up too many hunts :dontknow:

This was the first opportunity for me to post and it took a while for me to put it together.
 

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curbdiggercarl57

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Glad you're back, and what a showing! Really love the...., well all of it!
Obviously this should be a W&E story, hope you have time to write one.
Mucho kudos!
Carl
 

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I wanted to add that posts like this are what motivate me to get back out there and hunt and they also keep me coming back to tnet. Thank you for taking the time to put this together and share it with us all. I know my posts take upwards of 4+ hours to get together and it's typically a couple days after my hunt that I have the iron preserved. So I really appreciate the time you take on these Bill.
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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I wanted to add that posts like this are what motivate me to get back out there and hunt and they also keep me coming back to tnet. Thank you for taking the time to put this together and share it with us all. I know my posts take upwards of 4+ hours to get together and it's typically a couple days after my hunt that I have the iron preserved. So I really appreciate the time you take on these Bill.

Thanks for the kind words Brad. Sometimes these posts do take a lot of work, but it's well worth the effort.
 

Rick (Nova Scotia)

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Wow what to say...
Jeepers Bill great bunch of finds...for so early too.
If 'd been earlier I'd said more, but you know what you got.
FWIW I'd be happy with a couple (2) of them kind of Silver this year.
 

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Bill, you NEVER disappoint when we click! We also appreciate your encouragement to the rest of us, when you frequently comment on our (meager) finds. Well done, sir!
 

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Absolutely incredible sites and an amazing amount of early finds! Very impressive as always!
 

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AWESOME HUNTS - AWESOME FINDS
 

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Talk about a new screen saver picture. Fantastic job with the finds and the post. Best post and pictures I have seen in a while. So many individual good items. I am speechless! Very nice hunts and assemblage!
HH
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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Talk about a new screen saver picture. Fantastic job with the finds and the post. Best post and pictures I have seen in a while. So many individual good items. I am speechless! Very nice hunts and assemblage!
HH

I appreciate your comments - thanks! And that's a good idea about the screensaver. Haven't changed mine in a while so this would be a great time.
 

Gridwalker306

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Thanks man. That silver you mentioned is half of a 1 reale. The denomination and joint assayers marks are on the other side, and based that info the coin dates somewhere between 1737 and 1750..

Thanks Bill. I've never seen any Spanish silver up close in real life (except a shipwreck 8R that I bought). Very cool that you are able to DIG them!
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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Glad you're back, and what a showing! Really love the...., well all of it!
Obviously this should be a W&E story, hope you have time to write one.
Mucho kudos!
Carl

I'd love to, but I'm working on a much bigger project now.
 

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