Pointless Things To Go See In The Superstitions

[Ellie Baba]

Private party, I can't find the page that shows it I'll keep looking.

found it Pinal County, AZ mining, mines, mine owners and mine statistics Elephant Butte and Whetrock

Close, but wrong location: Elephant Butte Mine (Elephant Butte and Whetrock Mine), Elephant Butte area, Queen Valley, Pinal Co., Arizona, USA

Ellie Baba

http://www.mindat.org/loc-68569.html

 

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[Ellie Baba]

sgtfda,there could be an old covered shaft there some were ,maybe blm fence it off for that reason.np

The only digging done in the area was by backhoe on and off the past 60 years looking for treasure. There has never been a mine located there according to AZ Mining Docs.

Ellie B

 

[Somero]

Close, but wrong location: Elephant Butte Mine (Elephant Butte and Whetrock Mine), Elephant Butte area, Queen Valley, Pinal Co., Arizona, USA

Ellie Baba

Elephant Butte Mine (Elephant Butte and Whetrock Mine), Elephant Butte area, Queen Valley, Pinal Co., Arizona, USA

I stand corrected, Thanks

 

[Ellie Baba]

why is there a huge line of rocks at gov wells,and I don't want to hear someone say it was for corralling horses.np

The Hohokam built the walls to keep livestock, primarily sheep.

Ellie Baba

 

[Ellie Baba]

ellie baba,thank you for your grading of my posts,if you were a true treasure hunter, you would be treasure hunting instead of spending your time trying to tell every one else how great you are,tell us ,what does it feel like to find a treasure,oh, that's right because your hunting around the superstitions, your on the right site,because there is nothing to see,its all useless.np

I am not grading your posts...I am responding to your comments/opinions. We are not hunting in the Soups my friend, not yet. We must make a deal with the powers that be.

By the way, I have never stopped treasure hunting. Even now we are tightening the noose on an old friend we like to call El Cobollo". Everything happens when it is supposed to, can't force it, patience was a tough one for me to grapple with. We are getting our targets lined up, property owner contracts are in the works, specially designed GPR equipment with experienced world pro operators have been procured. We must line up all of our ducks and plan this all out rationally.

Arizona has no treasure trove laws on the books; it is considered chattel. If found on private property the law states that if the owner of the cache (chattel) is identified it must be held by the state until the owner has been notified. By law no finder's fee is required. If the owner can not be identified then the disposition of the cache belongs to us (both the property owner(s) and the recovery team). We still will be bombarded with numerous law suits filed by groups and/or individuals who believe the treasure belongs to them. We have a great team of attorneys on retainer for this purpose.

We have all agreed that we may not have any rights to this cache! We walk into this situation with eyes wide open. Any thing found on state or federal lands would be next to impossible to keep. Try to take it by secret...good luck, someone always spills the beans, people will brag and boast, especially when drinking.

I for one do not want to spend the rest of my years in prison.

Ellie B

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Funny we have never heard or seen anything you found, despite so many people asking.

Somero, this comment violates our rules, it implies your calling Peralta a liar. Do not do this.....

 

[Not Peralta]

ellie baba,your right about the walls being used for livestock ,plus at certain times of the year they would move them all the way up to horse mesa,if you ever get the chance ,when the water is low, go to horse mesa dam, and across on the other side you can see all the cliff dwellings that are now covered with water. thank you .np

 

[Not Peralta]

ellie baba,going up the canyon to horse mesa theres an ancient single trail that Geronimo used to get to the top of horse mesa,to hide from the gov. theres a similar trail that goes through the caballo mnts to the jornada del muerto that victorio used for same reasons and this trail runs all the way to the three rivers area, across the mnts to the Mescalero reservation.np

 

[cactusjumper]

ellie baba,going up the canyon to horse mesa theres an ancient single trail that Geronimo used to get to the top of horse mesa,to hide from the gov. theres a similar trail that goes through the caballo mnts to the jornada del muerto that victorio used for same reasons and this trail runs all the way to the three rivers area, across the mnts to the Mescalero reservation.np

NP,

I have never seen any historical evidence that Geronimo was ever in the Superstition Mountains including, what is said to be, his own book.

Can you tell us your source for that story?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Not Peralta]

cactusjumper, so I take you have never been to the real skull cave.np

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

Geronimo did this, Geronimo did that...Geronimo is chief of all apaches....

the sad part, is people believe this, and never believe the facts when presented...

 

[cactusjumper]

cactusjumper, so I take you have never been to the real skull cave.np

NP,

Skull Cave was full of Yavapai Indians. What, in your mind, did Geronimo have to do with that event?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Not Peralta]

cactusjumper,Ithought you read his book.np

 

[cactusjumper]

cactusjumper,Ithought you read his book.np

NP,

I have read a number of books that tell the story of Skull Cave. Have you read the Mike Burns (Hoomothya) manuscript? He was a young Yavapai Indian, and was present at the massacre. I have also read a number of other Yavapai accounts of the incident. Included in my sources are Carlos Montezuma (Wassaja) and "Surviving Conquest" byTimothy Bratz.

What's your source?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

I am always surprised by your library contents...

 

[Not Peralta]

cactusjumper,I went to this site with Philip cassadore during a ceremony ,and im pretty sure he knew what he was talking about.np

 

[cactusjumper]

I am always surprised by your library contents...

Donald,

My wife often says the same thing. You might ask Roy about my library. He and Beth visited us after the last Rendezvous. It's not really large, but it has good quality. If you're ever in town, give us a call.

Take care,

Joe

 

[cactusjumper]

cactusjumper,I went to this site with Philip cassadore during a ceremony ,and im pretty sure he knew what he was talking about.np

NP,

He may know what he's talking about, but Mike Burns was there. Was Mr. Cassadore?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Not Peralta]

cactusjumper,i just said that's who I went up there with.np

 

[cactusjumper]

cactusjumper,i just said that's who I went up there with.np

NP,

Sorry, forgot who I was talking to. To be clear, Mike Burns was there during the massacre. Not many people have been to the cave in recent years. When were the two of you there?

Did you also know his father, Chief Broken Arrow?

Joe Ribaudo