Spanish Silver 8 reale *** UPDATE*** A 1700s COUNTERFEIT !!! @@

[ModernMiner]

Spanish Silver 8 reale *** UPDATE*** A 1700's COUNTERFEIT !!! @@

I'm hoping like heck this is what I think it is. I'm hoping this is a piece of Spanish silver. If so, it's by far my best coin ever! Can someone tell me what it is? Age? Is it real?
I can make out the following:
"SPAN ET IN?" on one side,
and "Carolus" on the other side.
If it were all in one piece it would be about the size of a half dollar maybe.
The edge has strange symbols on it too.
I was hunting around in the field next to the old 1830 house in the Morrisville battlefield area today.
I will post my other finds tomorrow. I am a bit excited right now, so I wanted to get this piece posted first. I almost didn't even bother digging this up. Just before this I had dug up a piece of wire, and filled in the hole. Not even a foot away I got another signal. I thought it would be another piece of wire, so I wasn't going to dig it. Now I am VERY glad I did.
Please tell me this is the real thing.
The Mighty Tesoro may have done me proud again.
-MM-

 

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[BuckleBoy]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* (I hope)

WAY TO GO!!!!!

MM,

You have come a long way! Congratulations on this as well as all your recent, fantastic recoveries. Your have literally TRANSFORMED yourself this year. I remember in early spring you were talking about your difficulty in finding anything earlier than the 1940's. You deserve a BIG pat on the back! Now, you're bringing home GREAT old coins and relics EVERY time out. Bravo!

Be forewarned! This is the point at which it gets exhilarating--and addictive. Once you start getting the good stuff, there is no turning back. It has been great to watch you grow as a detectorist this year. And we're all here to support you every step along the way in the future, too. Congratulations again!

Regards,

Buckleboy

BB,
Thanks so much. Not bad for a guy with a $200 detector, huh? I love MDing the old properties. They have become my favorite type of MDing.
I was getting frustrated before because I wasn't finding any old silver. I was getting ready to buy a White's MXT or a Minelab, but my Tesoro seems to hold it's own. I dig a lot of iron, but it finds the good stuff too. That 1923 Merc I found in the woods a few weeks back was my oldest silver to date, until today's find.
Mirage said something to me that made sense (and saved me about $700 ). He basically just said if I'm not finding the silver coins but am consistently finding deep 1800's buttons, then the silver may not be where I'm hunting. "Thanks Mirage".
I feel at home with my machine after so many hours of hunting with it.
I do feel I've come a long way this year, so "thank you".
-Doug-

You're welcome! Keep in mind that the Silver uMax is my back-up machine. It's a great machine for the price.

-BB

 

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[SgtSki in MI]

That's a "reale" cool find!!!

Now I'm trying to figure out how many cents was represented by a cut that size. An 8-Reale passed as a Dollar up to the 1850s, and it was broken up into 8 bits, each being worth 12 1/2 cents. An 8 reale was usually cut into quarters each being worth two bits or 25 cents (the term "two bits" is still sometimes used to refer to a Quarter). So if a 4-Reale coins is 4 bits or 50 cents than a quarter cut of it would be 12 1/2 cents. But your cut's bigger than 1/4 of the coin. Maybe it's like 15 or 20 cents. I'll spare everyone my dissertation on how the short-lived 20-cent piece came into being though.

WTG MM!!!!

SgtSki

 

[vegasmtl]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

K, I am gonna have to invest some money in a liquid proof keyboard. Got some drool on it.
Seriously cool find. That would make my pirate heart proud!
WTG
vegasmtl

 

[civilman1]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Couldn't have happened to a more determined MDer than you MM......Big Congrat's on a Great Find!!!

 

[Gilligan]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

@#&%** I missed that one. I told you I did not find it all. I should have searched that area harder. Was it in the grass area with the trees to the right of the house, the opposite side that the driveway is on? Good luck and can't wait to see more pics, Bryan

 

[dave-enc]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

That is one super fantastic find Doug wtg
hh
dave+bobbie

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: That's a "reale" cool find!!!

Now I'm trying to figure out how many cents was represented by a cut that size. An 8-Reale passed as a Dollar up to the 1850s, and it was broken up into 8 bits, each being worth 12 1/2 cents. An 8 reale was usually cut into quarters each being worth two bits or 25 cents (the term "two bits" is still sometimes used to refer to a Quarter). So if a 4-Reale coins is 4 bits or 50 cents than a quarter cut of it would be 12 1/2 cents. But your cut's bigger than 1/4 of the coin. Maybe it's like 15 or 20 cents. I'll spare everyone my dissertation on how the short-lived 20-cent piece came into being though.

WTG MM!!!!

SgtSki

Sgt,
That's too much math for me.
I thought I had 3 pieces of an 8 reale? At least that's what it looks like to me size-wise. Is that right?
I don't know squat about these old coins except what I just learned from the TN members above.
-MM-

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Couldn't have happened to a more determined MDer than you MM......Big Congrat's on a Great Find!!!

Thanks Civil.
I greatly appreciate that. I think my Tesoro sees me more than my family. I love this hobby, and go out MDing whenever I get ANY time to myself.
HH this week.
-Doug-

 

[Nana40]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

OHHHHHHHH!!!!! MM!!!! I KNOW you're ONE happy hunter!!!!! What a find!!!!!

Had to be a happy dance right there!!!!

Many congrats to ya!!!! You did good!!!

Nana

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

@#&%** I missed that one. I told you I did not find it all. I should have searched that area harder. Was it in the grass area with the trees to the right of the house, the opposite side that the driveway is on? Good luck and can't wait to see more pics, Bryan

Bryan,
I want to thank you for NOT finding it. There is so much area to cover in that field area, it would be impossible to get it all. I have some other CW items I will be posting this a.m. that I found in that field too.
As far as "where" I found it..... It was in the large field on the right side of the house about 50 yards from the house. Real close to a telephone pole in that area. I kept digging up pieces of large wire out in that area, and almost didn't dig this silver target.
This was like finding a needle in a hatstack really. You can bet I'll be out there looking for more "needles" though.
If you want to go back out there with me on a Sat. just let me know.
Thanks and HH (Happy Holidays).
-Doug-

 

[tymcmurray]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Big time congratulations.

 

[Captn SE]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Doug,

You did it! You made a find that you've been dreaming about, hoping you would one day get. And now it's in your hands.

Great finds come to those who are patient, yet persistant. Congrats, buddy, for finding that "almost passed up" Reale piece. You will now be second guessing any signal you think you will pass up. You're right. That may have been a needle in the haystack, but there is more than one needle there. Who knows what you will be digging up there next? If you can find an old spanish silver from there, you've just opened the door for real old American silver/coppers too.

Nice job! I know where you're gonna be 'tecting for the rest of the year.

CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Nice find. Now go out and look for a concentration of iron in that field. Should you find it you will have a lot more to post!

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

Doug,

You did it! You made a find that you've been dreaming about, hoping you would one day get. And now it's in your hands.

Great finds come to those who are patient, yet persistant. Congrats, buddy, for finding that "almost passed up" Reale piece. You will now be second guessing any signal you think you will pass up. You're right. That may have been a needle in the haystack, but there is more than one needle there. Who knows what you will be digging up there next? If you can find an old spanish silver from there, you've just opened the door for real old American silver/coppers too.

Nice job! I know where you're gonna be 'tecting for the rest of the year.

CAPTN SE
Dan

Thank you Dan.
I can't wait to get back out there & try again! I'm digging ALL "iffy" signals out there from now on.
-Doug-

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

AWESOME FIND BUD! Now this is where it really starts to get ADDICTING. That first MAJOR find really gets the blood pumping. You are a good friend and I am really glad to see that you found this piece of Spanish Silver. That is really an awesome feat bud! Especially in North Carolina!! You are right about Civil War soldiers carrying these silvers during the war. One was found where I hunt by a hunting buddy of mine. Silver is Silver is Silver. Even after 1857, people still used them for currency which explains why the soldiers would have had them. Really cool piece of history and a great find on that Tesoro! Keep at it bud!

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

AWESOME FIND BUD! Now this is where it really starts to get ADDICTING. That first MAJOR find really gets the blood pumping. You are a good friend and I am really glad to see that you found this piece of Spanish Silver. That is really an awesome feat bud! Especially in North Carolina!! You are right about Civil War soldiers carrying these silvers during the war. One was found where I hunt by a hunting buddy of mine. Silver is Silver is Silver. Even after 1857, people still used them for currency which explains why the soldiers would have had them. Really cool piece of history and a great find on that Tesoro! Keep at it bud!

Thanks Josh.
This site has started out to be as fun as that farm I've hit this last year. I have a lot more to cover though.
The Tesoro did me proud!
-Doug-

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

This coin should be on the Banner now!

Bone Dry Detecting...Kirk

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

This coin should be on the Banner now!

Bone Dry Detecting...Kirk

Thank Bud.
Me on the banner? I can't imagine. Then I'd REALLY be hooked on this hobby!
-Doug-

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

I am already hooked on metal detecting, but this is what got Stacia hooked on me.

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: MY BEST FIND EVER!!! *Spanish Silver* 8 Reale !!! Carolus

I am already hooked on metal detecting, but this is what got Stacia hooked on me.

Holy smokes! That's a real feat feet.
You can cut a nice plug out with those nails.
-Doug-