Speaking Of Gun Control

[Ray S S]

I am a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment. I saw this pic of a Tshirt and decided to post it for what it says.

Ray

 

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[wells]

Neat. It really burns me up when people go on a rant about guns and gun owners being so bad, but yet they never think once before getting in a motor vehicle, which kill more people then guns do.

 

[George (MN)]

I like "doctors kill more people than guns". Best wishes, George (MN)

 

[worldtalker]

I recon all these people know this too! God Bless Chris http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne...0800000-guns-sold-in-the-usa-in-2011_01212012

 

[Ray S S]

Thanks guys for looking and for your replies.

Chris that was a pretty loooong website with a ton of comments about it Thanks for posting.

Ray

 

[Dano Sverige]

"Guns don't kill"....umm then why do you need one then?

 

[allan]

We hate to bring knives to gunfights

 

[Chug And Red]

Love It I want One!!!!

 

[spartacus53]

I kind of agree, we don't need gun control..

But we do need control over some that already have them... They may not have full control of their own faculties

 

[Frankn]

It's a matter of freedom of choice. Some shoot pool I shoot targets. And an invasion of this country would be an invaders worst nightmare. The presents of vast numbers of firearms in the hands of the people is the main reason that the Japanese never tried an invasion on this Continent. When WWII broke out a lot of our guns were sent to England for their defence since they were banned there. Now they are banned there again. Some people never learn. History has to keep repeating itself I guess. Frank

 

[Ray S S]

Dano, when the bad guys know you have a gun and can shoot back they will usually leave you alone and pick on
someone who does not have that protection.

Allen, that's right, a knife doesn't win out against a gun. LOL.

Chug and Red, Yup, having a gun can save a life. They just have to be used with common sense, no carelessness. That's
when the wrong people get hurt. When properly used, gun ownership can be a life-saver for the owner or his family.

Spart, it's like one of the popular bumper stickers say, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns''. The American
family would be in deep trouble if all the guns were taken out of the homes because the crooks can always get them on the black
markets and they would have a field day with all the unprotected homes. I do agree with you, though, that there are a few
people that have guns that are careless with their handling and unsafe storage.

Right Frank, good answer.

Thanks to all for your great replies.

Ray

 

[Dano Sverige]

Oh i agree Ray. If a thug knows you have a gun then he'll go elsewhere, but that brings me to another point. If you want the badguys to know you have a gun as a deterrent...why does everyone have CONCEALED carry permits?

Frankn mate...the Japanese NEVER wanted to invade the USA. All they wanted was for you to stay the hell out of what they were doing elsewhere, and you wouldn't have...so they wallopped your Navy.
Using an imaginary invasion as a defensive statement for millions of privately owned weapons is just....ridiculous!

 

[spartacus53]

Yup, I'm with Dano on his thinking regarding an invasion.. Frankn, it would be difficult for any foreign navy to even reach our shores as the vessels would be spotted too quickly..

On the other hand... I'll worry when one of these countries develops a really strong swimming team

Ray, I think you misunderstood my initial response. Apart from mishandling and unsafe storage, there are those that do not have the right mindset to own one..

 

[Ray S S]

Spart, yes you are right, there those that do not have the right mindset. I was thinking of that, too but I guess I didn't
word it right to definitely include that.

Ray

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI spart may I ask, until the forementioned battles, just what did the US have to actually stop an invasion in the way of ships? Except for the luck of having our carriers out at sea on maneuvers, we were effectively zero on a Pacific surface ship force after Pearl Harbour.

However they did start a form of invasion in the Aleutians.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Dano, regarding guns and explosives, nah they do not kill by them selves, in fact I have yet to hear of a gun going off all by itself, but when in the hands of OIRISH Patriots -------- !

I sleep with a gun, and so far it hasn't killed me.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Dave44]

You all know my history knowledge is so so. But am I to understand that Japan wanted us to stick to our own business so they decided to bomb our navy into submission to underscore their intent? They had no other intentions than to just tell us to stay out of the war,, and take that! Just in case you feel froggy we will show you! yeah.

Weren't enemy subs sunk off of our coasts? Germany just trying to tell us to mind our own business too? If you honestly think that an invasion was never considered from any enemy you are naive at best.

 

[Dano Sverige]

Let me try put it into an easy scenario for ya Dave mate -
You want to rob the local 7/11 store but the guy who lives across the street with the 4 pitbulls and a Rottweiler is certain to interfere!
Now...do you go into the store and hope the guy and his dogs don't notice what's happening? Or do you drug/poison/shoot his dogs the day before?
Remember, you don't want to move into the store and take on the mortgage etc...you just want to rob it without problems from elsewhere.

Get the idea?

Japan NEVER wanted to invade the states! Had that been the plan then Pearl Harbor would never have happened. They snuck in close enough to carry out that attack, but why warn and hurt a nation BEFORE you attempt an invasion?? Doesn't make sense does it?

2 subs does not an invasion make! lol...The US put hundreds of subs off the coast of Russia, you never meant to invade it though...right?

(Real my old tramp friend...do you mean those "OIRISH patriots" with the same mindset as the great American patriot - Timothy McVeigh? )

 

[Dave44]

Oh i agree Ray. If a thug knows you have a gun then he'll go elsewhere, but that brings me to another point. If you want the badguys to know you have a gun as a deterrent...why does everyone have CONCEALED carry permits?

Frankn mate...the Japanese NEVER wanted to invade the USA. All they wanted was for you to stay the hell out of what they were doing elsewhere, and you wouldn't have...so they wallopped your Navy.
Using an imaginary invasion as a defensive statement for millions of privately owned weapons is just....ridiculous!

Dano, buddy. Maybe you just didn't mean to state it this way? This makes NO logical sense! Here is an easy scenario for you.

You are on a beach looking at the guys working out and say to yourself, "hey those guys are big, I am gonna go over there and b... slap about 10 of them so they will know to leave me alone". That is your exact analogy and I will allow that you never planned on playing with their weight sets, probably because you had just attempted suicide anyway.

So, what then WAS your point?

By the way, your other example about softening the ground for an INVASION of the 7/11 to rob it doesn't make sense either.. Love you man, mean it. But did you take a fall lately? You are not being coherent.

 

[allan]

When or if the day ever comes, when a person with a gun, terrorist, thief, rapist whoever, I do not want to rely on a 911 call and instant response from a policeman.by the way I have called 911 here in PR 2 times and only once did they show up and they took 30 minutes because they could not find the house