The Hart's Person to Person Visit With J.B. Ward Confirmation The Beale Papers True

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Five, you can keep trying to twist your tale any way you desire in your attempt to keep the fantasy alive. But just read what you wrote here, it's "all made up" gibberish based on pure wild speculation without a single shred of supporting fact, not even a single shred of supporting fact that be connected to the tale's alleged TJB, the party, the grand adventure, the alleged letters, etc, etc. You're simply fabricating your own fantasy world "because you want the tale to be true." Why? Because if the tale isn't true then so goes your manufactured cipher solution......:laughing7: And you still haven't explained how "pounds = dollars" equal even close to the estimated value of the treasure by the author? I can't wait to see how you'll try to make that workout?......:laughing7:

Positively confused you are! :laughing7:
 

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Positively confused you are! :laughing7:

Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever. :laughing7:
Do you even understand that "pounds" as it relates to value "was/is a standard." :laughing7:
$3000 is equal to 2343.75 pounds.
10'000 pounds is equal to $12'840.00
It doesn't matter if it's gold VS silver, etc., etc.,....doesn't matter if it's French, Spanish, etc., etc,.....:laughing7:.....that plays little part in it.

Learn about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(currency
 

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Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever. :laughing7:
Do you even understand that "pounds" as it relates to value "was/is a standard." :laughing7:
$3000 is equal to 2343.75 pounds.
10'000 pounds is equal to $12'840.00
It doesn't matter if it's gold VS silver, etc., etc.,....doesn't matter if it's French, Spanish, etc., etc,.....:laughing7:.....that plays no part in it.

Learn about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(currency

Virginia Pound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_pound
 

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A ton = 2000 lbs.
"According to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, all U.S. bills weigh the same: one gram. About 454 grams make a pound, which means that a ton of dollar bills would be worth $908,000."

Well that should twist your head of as you're trying to turn you ridiculous "pound" theory into appropriate Beale values...:laughing7:
 

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Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever. :laughing7:
Do you even understand that "pounds" as it relates to value "was/is a standard." :laughing7:
$3000 is equal to 2343.75 pounds.
10'000 pounds is equal to $12'840.00
It doesn't matter if it's gold VS silver, etc., etc.,....doesn't matter if it's French, Spanish, etc., etc,.....:laughing7:.....that plays little part in it.

Learn about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(currency

"Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever."
1822
Ten Hundred used for weight!
On Thousand used for money!

It's just what Beale used in C2, but the editor of the Beale Papers had other ideas. The editor who is normally the publisher changed the English to a more updated version for 1885!

He also added words to the original C2 that are not in the original deciphering of the C2.
 

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Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever. :laughing7:
Do you even understand that "pounds" as it relates to value "was/is a standard." :laughing7:
$3000 is equal to 2343.75 pounds.
10'000 pounds is equal to $12'840.00
It doesn't matter if it's gold VS silver, etc., etc.,....doesn't matter if it's French, Spanish, etc., etc,.....:laughing7:.....that plays little part in it.

Learn about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(currency

"Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever."
1885
Ten Hundred is used for weight and money
One Thousand is used for weight and money

The editor updated these words because they no longer held the same needed meaning. This was done by the editor with no understanding of why Beale used them originally. No one but us few that have actually deciphered C2 would have ever known.

The author and publisher simply updated the English in the text with no regard for the original words used. The words (for Silver) added to the line "jewells traded save on transportation" are proof they updated the English language used in the small book from that of the original manuscript.
 

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So says you? That of course is an assumption which can not be proven. Why do you not offer some proof of anything if you have anything?
 

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"Dude, you're far-reaching summations make no sense whatsoever."
1885
Ten Hundred is used for weight and money
One Thousand is used for weight and money

The editor updated these words because they no longer held the same needed meaning. This was done by the editor with no understanding of why Beale used them originally. No one but us few that have actually deciphered C2 would have ever known.

The author and publisher simply updated the English in the text with no regard for the original words used. The words (for Silver) added to the line "jewells traded save on transportation" are proof they updated the English language used in the small book from that of the original manuscript.

LMAO...:laughing7:.....have you ever considered that "pounds" was used to identify "alleged physical weights" and "dollars" was used to identify "alleged monies" and that all of this editing nonsense is just pure wildly manufactured fantasy by someone who is desperately trying to turn something, anything, into a false fact so that he can continue writing his own work of complete fiction? Of course you haven't.....:laughing7: (Both were the norm in 1885.)
 

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So says you? That of course is an assumption which can not be proven. Why do you not offer some proof of anything if you have anything?

I have heard that before! Can you provide proof?
 

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LMAO...:laughing7:.....have you ever considered that "pounds" was used to identify "alleged physical weights" and "dollars" was used to identify "alleged monies" and that all of this editing nonsense is just pure wildly manufactured fantasy by someone who is desperately trying to turn something, anything, into a false fact so that he can continue writing his own work of complete fiction? Of course you haven't.....:laughing7: (Both were the norm in 1885.)

You seem to fall back on the same thing every time. You use verbal assaults when you have no idea what I'm saying!

It was never about the pound and dollars. :laughing7:

OFLMAO!
 

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You seem to fall back on the same thing every time. You use verbal assaults when you have no idea what I'm saying!

It was never about the pound and dollars. :laughing7:

OFLMAO!

"YES!"....lol....you don't even realize that what you've stated IS about pounds VS weights. :laughing7: Just keep posting as you are....:icon_thumleft:
 

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That was some fun reading.
I am confused ,if all the pages have been decoded. Then where is the Treasure?
 

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That was some fun reading.
I am confused ,if all the pages have been decoded. Then where is the Treasure?

C2 is the only paper that has been decoded and it was given with the story. You write a treasure story you first have to let someone know how much treasure they are looking for and then everyone bites the bait and they are hooked. Even though there is no treasure. C1 and C3 can not be deciphered as they are only placed there to make a long story out of a short story. The whole pamphlet was only about 23 pages long so most likely it was a hook and sinker treasure story to make money.
 

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That was some fun reading.
I am confused ,if all the pages have been decoded. Then where is the Treasure?

According to the one who has dedicated his time to deciphering the three ciphers correctly with the key, there are four places to be excavated. Perhaps that one should be asked!
 

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According to the one who has dedicated his time to deciphering the three ciphers correctly with the key, there are four places to be excavated. Perhaps that one should be asked!

That "only one" joins a very long list of "only ones" who likewise thought so and promoted this same false claim to fame. Let me ask you something, since you're so open to questions, "how can one arrive at true plain text when he can't even establish that the tale or any of it's characters and details are true accounts?" This has always been the obvious downfall of such claims, to which there have been many over the years.
 

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According to the one who has dedicated his time to deciphering the three ciphers correctly with the key, there are four places to be excavated. Perhaps that one should be asked!

That said person has not gone public in four years or is it five years, so his work is no better than the ones that have gone public and copyrighted their work. So dream on.
 

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That "only one" joins a very long list of "only ones" who likewise thought so and promoted this same false claim to fame. Let me ask you something, since you're so open to questions, "how can one arrive at true plain text when he can't even establish that the tale or any of it's characters and details are true accounts?" This has always been the obvious downfall of such claims, to which there have been many over the years.

Same option, different day!
 

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That said person has not gone public in four years or is it five years, so his work is no better than the ones that have gone public and copyrighted their work. So dream on.

I have seen there work here in one of these threads. One of them has no idea that the people the Beale group left there wealth to are supposed to be named on the same page 3, according to Beale's last letter in the box.
 

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