The rare craptastic day

Goldwasher

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It started out feelin pretty good too.

I was on my way to the post office to send Delnorter his EZ pan and going to the county to look at files so I can map out an open in an area with a few claims to help a client prospect. Hopefully have it end up being a good spot for her and her boyfriend to locate a claim.

I had just left my neighborhood and right up the road I pass a Tweetie Bird yellow Nissan frontier 4x4. There aren't too many Stupid yellow trucks where I'm at for me however there is a very specific yellow truck around here.

It belongs to a fellow named Doug or Ray Rinzonni (he goes by both). He owns a company called mORE mining out of Georgetown. He was a dealer for him for a while selling a few of the things he makes. That rolling sluice and sniper/viewer tubes.

I met him when I opened my store he is mainly a nuggethunter. we had several conversations He knew I had claims and where.
Well,last year I moved my store across the highway and had to remodel and open by may I started my new lease in mid March was still working on the creek four days a week. But, Starting April I was remodeling a whole suite, moving, dealing with my daughters softball practices etc.

I had still been hitting the claim two days a week I hadn't swapped out my memory cards in my camera for a few weeks. One day on my way out theres this yellow truck parked near the start of the road. I'm in my heart hoping it isn't Dougray Knowing it is.

I actually had a printed picture map I made of the BLM land and claims on it Our two and the one next to us.I put it under his windshield wiper, headed home. Went to softball practice. Came home checked out my camera videos and images and theres Ray on three different days for eight plus hours each walking out in the dark even.

He uses a minelab sdc whatever the hell folding one that is. There he is on video with it and the same white dog that shows up in his youtube videos.

WTF??

Next day I go down to the claim and where he had been parked he crumpled the map and threw it on the ground. But, not before writing F.U. on the back of it with a sharpie.

FOR REAL

So, I go work for the day. When I get home I call his partner who I also know. He's a geologist. Told him to tell ray he has two days to figure out what he has to say to me before I call the sheriff.

Two days later I call the Sheriff. file the report they go by his house twice. The first time the wife even says.. "oh, your probably here because of Jarrod"

When the deputy finaly runs into him he plays stupid" oh, I saw the yellow signs but, I just had eye surgery"

"if he wants to tell me what is open i'll make sure to only go there"

So, basically nothing was done except he was admonished not to return.

Fast forward back to today. I see him turn around follow hanging back. I had a different vehicle when we met.So, I figure he won't even know it's me.

He didn't see me turn around. So I'm behind him he makes the turn into my neighborhood. Our claims are in a BLM area surrounded by private land. You have to be with a homeowner as a guest to use our common areas our road is private.

We did make eye contact as we passed and a little ways into our hood I figured he may know it was me following him.

Right near the road to our trail is a lake and park. He pulls in there I see him eyeing me in his side mirror I go up the road park for a few minutes and ponder my next step.

Go back to the park and pull in. get out walk over and tell him he's got a lot of nerve. Top get the hell out of my neighborhood. Remind him what a P.O.S. he is he starts getting all defensive and talking about claim markers etc.

Then he tells me how he heard that I got my claim by tricking a club and taking it after they took me there...totally weird and untrue.

When I found him out in the spring I tracked where he had gone on our claims the neighbors and onto the large parcels adjacent to the blm land.

So, I told him what a P.O.S. he was for highgrading and trespassing.

He had some guy with him this time so, I reminded him that he was cruising around with a thief.

I had already called the sheriff right in front of him gave his vehicle and Liscense plate. But, they take forever to show up.

So, the more he tried to claim he could stay and that I was the jerk somehow, the more I tried to verbally get him to allow me to self defend my self all over his stupid face.

Of course he is a stupid coward and left. Now, I have to file another report running into the deputy can take a day or two.

I did wait for a bit where I parked but, I had other things I needed to do.

When I get to the county Recorder. I found out for sure that the new recording tax in Ca. does count for mining claims.

So every mining claim document that has to be recorded now has a $75 dollar tax per document. MINIMUM.

Location notice. Proof of labor. notice of intent to hold.

That $150 bucks added to the cost of filing a new claim. the first year. $75 at time of location recording and $75 when you file the Notice of intent to hold the first time you use the SMW.

And $75 added to annual paperwork. It was less than $50 before total. El Do county is $18 first page $3 for each additional.

Like I said CRAPTASTIC!!!
 

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IMAUDIGGER

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This makes me chuckle, your saying it's normal behaviour of yours to dig wherever you would like , giving no care to mineral claims since your not looking for minerals.. And anyone who has a problem with this is in the wrong? Yeah you were taught well.. There is such a thing, regardless of law called ethics, and yours sir are hard to grasp. Who cares about the legality, it's just not good practice in general imo.

Attitudes change quickly the further south you travel in California, as does the lay of the land and the nature of the gold deposits.
There is much competition for resources (including gold), even to the point that people will use a mining claim as an excuse to dominate a piece of public land. Fake camps to permanently reserve areas, rapid firing guns as intimidation, stalking every vehicle that happens to be parked along public roads near their claims..video surveillance signs, ect. ect. I can only imagine.

Somehow I am able to see the distinction between detecting a burned out homestead or pack trail for lost valuables and prospecting for gold. Most reasonable people can do the same. You are of course welcome to your own opinions on the matter. In my area, there were hundreds of homes burned down in the 1980's which were located on federal mining claims. I have yet to meet a serious prospector that would lose sleep over the off-chance that someone might find a nugget in the front yard or driveway and not put it back.

Goldwasher has apparently caught this feller prospecting on his mining claim. There should be some consequences for that, especially if this guy has returned despite being warned. Threatening assault and battery, vehicle tampering, attempted malicious wounding, destruction of property, ect. probably isn't the best recourse, especially if bragged about beforehand on a public forum.
 

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bc5391

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I have heard that paint stripper in a super soaker water toy can make a mess of bright yellow paint, its unfortunate when you come back to your truck and its paint is running, or so I have heard.

Brake fluid does a wonderful job and is cheaper
 

63bkpkr

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Goldwasher,
I feel for you and the difficulties your are having with at least one person not respecting your Legal Rights.

At the moment I am recovering from the Flu and its companion Pneumonia. By Mid January I should be 'good to go'. Should this situation continue send me a PM as I could be talked into driving up North to act as a guard knowing full well that the perps have time in their favor.

FYI - I've a potential consulting gig that could also take place in January so everything depends on "timing"!

A better New Year.......................63bkpkr
 

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