totally puzzing button! any ideas?

JoeDirt

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totally puzzling button! any ideas?

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beleived to be french. but thats where I need help. I cant find anything on it or anything like it.
please help!
Thanks for looking
 

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Iron Patch

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Modern button mimicking an ancient coin. Not sure where to find a match, or if there's much reason to.
 

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Strange! I put it in google translate and it says French detected but will not translate. I was hoping that would give us more clues. But you already probably tried that.
 

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Welcome to Tnet, cool button put it in the button forum someone will help with the ID.
 

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Agreed, modern jacket button, 2 piece hollow with recreated image of ancient coin.
 

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I separated the xiiii from the pivsiptrp and got this so far in Google Translate. Anvoninvsavb pivsiptrp were fourteen. Maybe if we keep separating letters it will give us a clue to what it is actually saying. Maybe the words are compressed together without spacing on the coin. It definitely says French though. I will keep working on it.
 

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Fourteen in Latin would be XIV, not XIIII. Look at Latin for a translation, and remember French is built on Latin (as is English).
 

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Fourteen in Latin would be XIV, not XIIII. Look at Latin for a translation, and remember French is built on Latin (as is English).

Agreed Smokey, don't know why I didn't look at the simple stuff first. Was too busy trying to separate letters once Google spit out something. Started to get excited. Oh well back to the drawing board. :)
 

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Also, try turning the "V"'s into "U"'s. You might have the word "Pius" which was the name of numerous Roman Catholic Popes. (I think I'm supposed to capitalize the word "Pope". Happy new year.
 

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Well I tried but no luck. Maybe an expert will chime in and help. Some translators are referencing it to French and other are referencing it to Estonian. I dunno!
 

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I don't see the importance of id'ing the origin of the text because that does not determine where it was made. It will tell you what it is based on, if that matters.
 

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Its modern. Too much work into something so modern. Some new expensive jackets have those on them and high end purses come with similar buttons
 

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Modern button mimicking an ancient coin. Not sure where to find a match, or if there's much reason to.

Yeap a Roman imitation 'Coin' Button.
 

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Here are Cru'dads thought on the coin 'like' button:

'I think you can add to help those that did not know that the Romans did use XIIII = 14 as well as XIV on their coins – that this is a miswritten copy of any original Antoninus Pius Coin text of AD160-161 when that emperor was awarded the Tribunician Powers (TRP) for the 14[SUP]th[/SUP] time (actually recorded as XIIII). The correct coin text would have been ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP TRP XIIII but the Portrait used is not him as he had a Beard and completely different profile (probably the button one is just a created Roman-Like head with Laureate headgear). AVG standing for Augustus (meaning Revered and with sacred overtones), PP for Pater Patriae (Father of his Country), and TRP for Tribunicia Potestas (an office conferring the power of the Tribunes of the People and awarded annually as merited)'
 

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