As I informed Mamabear.. I forgot to check with my wife first on attemtping to sell my tumblers.. and In doing so, She (my wife) told me I'm not getting rid of the tumblers.. True I did follow the stages to get a nice shine on the stones.. your's just look way better then I've even seen at any other forums I've particupated in.. I've even heard of one user, Painting on Nail polish to get this type of shine, thats why I was so skeptical..and yes.. I'll hold onto the tumblers for a bit longer, though I can't say I'll be using them any time soon.