8 day Germany trip yields sweet relics

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I just recently came back from a trip to Germany with lots of metal detecting. There are several photos and I've ID'd most of the items but not all.

-1797 Silver 4 Groschen
-Various buckles; I believe the round relic may be part of a Roman broach
-Musket/pistol balls
-NSDAP badge, religious bracelet piece, 1891 commemorative medallion on the showing of Jesus tunic in Trier, Rivenich pin and crucifix
 

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-Two Roman coins; one is a nice Faustina II although I'm still trying to nail down which variety
-Lamp wheel, buckle, a sweet broach; the top 3 relics I'm not sure of
-Lead bag seals and other various relics
-A lead figurine head and pin
 

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-National Socialist German Students League (NSDStB) belt buckle; this is in nice shape although a plow had its way with it years ago. I'm not sure if I should leave this as is or try to straighten.
-Various buttons
-Many coins which date from the mid 1800s to 1963
-My nicer buttons; I'm still trying to ID the bottom left one
 

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Cool finds! I'd love to find things that old!
 

Your vacations are like my vacations! Lot's of metal detecting.

Very nice finds sir. Roman to Nazi, now that's a wide time frame.

Congrats.
 

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..: NICE FINDS mindcrime :..
 

Hey, you dind't stop by!
The typical variety of finds you made! Nice Faustina! To me the buckle is the best find, rare to find detecting, very good condition. It will straight out fine, this aluminum is good quality, just take your time.
 

looked like an awesome trip, one that memories are made of. congrats:headbang:
 

Congrats on a nice assortment of old finds
 

Aaah, there's nothing like hunting in Europe. Congrats on the finds and the adventure.
 

The RZM number on your buckle id's the maker as : M4/38, Richard Sieper & Söhne, Ludenscheid (R.S&S.) They made a lot of buckles and aren't a particularly rare maker but it is a fairly rare buckle. Examples in good condition can bring over $800.00..... I'm guessing the part that holds the leather tab on is missing? Either way it's a great buckle, and I think it would be a good candidate to have professionally straightened, it won't be a top dollar buckle, but it will have some value, especially to a collector who needs one to complete his collection and can't afford to pay high prices.



edit : These are cast buckles, I'm surprised the plow didn't break it. If you decide to have it straightened out, make sure whoever you get to do it knows their way around cast aluminum. It would be a real shame to have it break now
 

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Awesome finds
Congrats
 

Hey, you dind't stop by!
The typical variety of finds you made! Nice Faustina! To me the buckle is the best find, rare to find detecting, very good condition. It will straight out fine, this aluminum is good quality, just take your time.

Sorry for not stopping by. LOL I know Germany is a decent size country so unless you live anywhere near Trier, it would have been hard to meet up. Maybe next time?
 

The RZM number on your buckle id's the maker as : M4/38, Richard Sieper & Söhne, Ludenscheid (R.S&S.) They made a lot of buckles and aren't a particularly rare maker but it is a fairly rare buckle. Examples in good condition can bring over $800.00..... I'm guessing the part that holds the leather tab on is missing? Either way it's a great buckle, and I think it would be a good candidate to have professionally straightened, it won't be a top dollar buckle, but it will have some value, especially to a collector who needs one to complete his collection and can't afford to pay high prices.



edit : These are cast buckles, I'm surprised the plow didn't break it. If you decide to have it straightened out, make sure whoever you get to do it knows their way around cast aluminum. It would be a real shame to have it break now

Thanks for the ID. I found similar information on the buckle which provided some nice insight. The part which holds the leather tab is still there. Overall I'm very happy with this buckle......other than it being bent! But for the moment I think I may just leave it as is.
 

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The RZM number on your buckle id's the maker as : M4/38, Richard Sieper & Söhne, Ludenscheid (R.S&S.) They made a lot of buckles and aren't a particularly rare maker but it is a fairly rare buckle. Examples in good condition can bring over $800.00..... I'm guessing the part that holds the leather tab on is missing? Either way it's a great buckle, and I think it would be a good candidate to have professionally straightened, it won't be a top dollar buckle, but it will have some value, especially to a collector who needs one to complete his collection and can't afford to pay high prices.



edit : These are cast buckles, I'm surprised the plow didn't break it. If you decide to have it straightened out, make sure whoever you get to do it knows their way around cast aluminum. It would be a real shame to have it break now

Most aluminum buckles are cast. Don't know which alloy was used but it's very soft and easy to bend, one way or the other. I straightened a couple over time and all came out nice. Folded over aluminum is a different thing. At least it will straighten enough to be display worth. :icon_thumleft:
 

Wow! Helluva trip you had here and great finds, too! Which part of Germany did you detect? Mostly fields?

Cheers!
 

Wow! Helluva trip you had here and great finds, too! Which part of Germany did you detect? Mostly fields?

Cheers!

Yes I'm still happy with all of my finds. The relics there in Germany have always been fantastic. There were many areas I detected around the area of Trier. And yes 95% of the finds are from farmers fields. Sometimes it's tough to find a field before it's planted but persistence pays off.
 

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