124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C -> Update 2

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Looking at an old map of Camp Logan I realized that the dog tag was found right where the 124th Machine Gun Battallion was stationed...imagine that.

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Thanks to Countie Mountie on Dirt Journal for this info:

I just read through my roster for the 5th illinois infantry company "c" which was redesignated as the 124 MG batt, as bama dave said previously. The 1917 roster shows a Haynes, but it is listed as Ralph Warren Haynes JR. enlistment march 21 1917, muster date march 26 1917. Haynes is listed as a private.

Jon
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Thanks to Bama Dave on Dirt Journal for this info:

During the months of September and October, 1917, the Thirty-third division was organized at Camp Logan, Texas, from units of the Illinois National Guard which had been drafted into federal service. Several regiments of infantry of the I. N. G. had to be broken up or changed bodily into other arms of the service. Among these were the Fifth and Seventh. The Fifth regiment was composed of companies from Quincy, Peoria, Canton, Pekin, Jacksonville, Bloomington, Decatur, Delavan, Danville, Springfield and Taylorville, and was commanded by Col. Frank S. Woods of Quincy.

On October 10, 1917, the reorganization took place, and the 122d, 123d and 124th machine gun battalions were formed. At first the 124th battalion was composed of three companies, L of Decatur, D of Bloomington and C of Springfield, all of the old Fifth regiment.

http://genealogytrails.com/ill/mclean/mil_wwi_124machinegunbattalion.html

Unfortunately no records I could find in Sangamon county for 5th Regt ING roster/ or 1910 census to look for J Haynes but would be neat to find if he has any living relatives to return the dogtag to.

BD
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Went to a job fair today and, since every day is a day off at the moment, I went back to Memorial for an afternoon hunt. I found the button within a few minutes and then some bullets. I was working through the dense brush and came across a bike path. I hunted the path for a ways and right in the middle of it I got a solid hit. I thought it might be a dog tag since a number of them have been found here (WWI Camp Logan), but wasn't sure until I cleaned it up. It looks like it went through a fire. Other notable items are the buckle and broken tent stake.

This is a pic of the 123rd Field Artillery at Camp Logan and the order of battle for the 33rd. I am going to try to find more info and pics. I can get a few letters of the Private's name on the dog tag...maybe I can match it up to a list...

In 1918 the 33rd Division was organized as follows:

65th Infantry Brigade
129th Infantry Regiment
130th Infantry Regiment
123rd Machine Gun Battalion

66th Infantry Brigade
131st Infantry Regiment
132nd Infantry Regiment
124th Machine Gun Battalion

58th Field Artillery Brigade
122nd Field Artillery (75mm)
123rd Field Artillery (155mm)
124th Field Artillery (75mm)
108th Trench Mortar Battery

Divisional Troops:
122nd Machine Gun Battalion
108th Engineers
108th Field Signal Battalion
Headquarters Troop

Train
108th Train Headquarters & Military Police
108th Ammunition Train
108th Supply Train
108th Engineer Train
108th Sanitary Train, consisting of:

129th Field Hospital
130th Field Hospital
131st Field Hospital
132nd Field Hospital
Ambulances

Source: History's Greatest War: A Pictorial Narrative by S. J. Duncan-Clark; Copyrighted 1919 by E. T. Townsend, p. 206.

HH!
TBGO

 

[detector de metales]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Wow great finds!
Is that a Dog Tag? No Name??
and I have one more question..
Is that a finger in the middle of the 2nd picture?
J2

 

[Newt]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Wow great finds!
Is that a Dog Tag? No Name??
and I have one more question..
Is that a finger in the middle of the 2nd picture?
J2

I think it's a BENT boat tail bullet.
Newt

 

[The Beep Goes On]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Thanks ddm. It is a WWI dog tag from Camp Logan in Houston which is now Memorial Park...the private's name is mostly illegible. Newt is correct. The bullet does look like a finger...I noticed that too...must have bounced a couple of times.

HH!
TBGO

 

[Newt]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Great seal and a dog tag!
Good job.
Newt

 

[SoreKneesDayton]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

That is a nice haul you got there. A good mix of stuff. I like the round item-whatever it is.]
SKD

 

[Nana40]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

That would be great if you could match the tag to a person on one of the lists! Will make for a good mystery to solve!

Congrats on all those finds! Great to see you posting~ Nana

 

[The Beep Goes On]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

That would be great if you could match the tag to a person on one of the lists! Will make for a good mystery to solve!

Congrats on all those finds! Great to see you posting~ Nana

Thanks Nana...can you say "The Beep Goes Off"? Sometimes life just gets in the way of the important things, like detecting

 

[crazyjarhead]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Nice story, pics and finds. Are you going to try to find the owners family for the dog tag? Good luck and keep us posted

 

[The Beep Goes On]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Nice story, pics and finds. Are you going to try to find the owners family for the dog tag? Good luck and keep us posted

Thanks Ron...from what I can tell, the first initial is "J". The lastname starts with "HAYN" or "HAVN". Deathshead on the Dirt Journal Forum (http://dirtjournal.com/forum/index.php) is checking into it. A lot of the guys on DJ hunt at memorial so they have some background. If we can get a list I think we can find the soldier.

HH!
TBGO

 

[Harry_Morant]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co.

What a great find, well done on the research so far

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

Nice post and hunt! Congrats on the WWI dog tag! HH, Mike

 

[dave-enc]

Re: 1918 33rd Division, 66th Infantry Brigade, 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C

nice finds beep wtg
hh
dave+bobbie

 

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Re: 124th Machine Gun Battalion, Co. C -> Update

Update in original post

 

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Update 2 in original post.

 

[kdismuke1]

NICE FINDS AND A GREAT POST.

 

[moholedigger]

In playing with the picture in photoshop.. it almost appears it is a "J. Ha(v?)yne(s, maybe, maybe not) JR. Look above the 4 and just to the right. Almost certainly a period. Hard to see the JR w/out transposing the pic, but it looks possible.

 

[The Beep Goes On]

In playing with the picture in photoshop.. it almost appears it is a "J. Ha(v?)yne(s, maybe, maybe not) JR. Look above the 4 and just to the right. Almost certainly a period. Hard to see the JR w/out transposing the pic, but it looks possible.

Thanks moholedigger! The only name we can find that comes close is "Ralph Warren Haynes JR." I know what you're saying about the "JR." It is probably him, but we will probably never know for sure. I haven't tried to look up his relatives...sounds like a bad weather research project.

HH!
TBGO