1800s Gold Ring! Awesome!

rufus3898 · Jul 26, 2009

1800's Gold Ring! Awesome!

After a day of hunting around some small towns with horrid results me and a friend had all but given up and headed back to the city. We found a small park that looked like it would produce nothing but gave it a shot anyway. After a hour or so I had all but given up after finding mostly clad and was swinging the detector like a madman just for fun when I got a quick hit. It sounded like a screw cap but I decided what the heck i'll investigate......... Well not screwcap but look what popped out!!!! :tongue3:

It is a 9k gold with diamond ring!!! I just about pooped! I just about pooped again when I saw the old british hallmarks. From what I see it is 9k Birmingham England H=1856! Wow! If I am wrong on the hallmark please let me know! Thanks and HH!

lonewolfe · Jul 26, 2009

Re: 1800's Gold Ring! Awesome!

Whoa! That's a honker of a ring for sure!

HH

DrJoePrime · Jul 27, 2009

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The only thing I can get from the etching is that TM/NM probably initials of the couple.

This is a really exciting find and I vote Banner!! (how many GOLD with DIAMOND Rings do we see on here from the 1800's?)

YEP...outstanding find ... :hello2:

HH Joe

spartacus53 · Jul 27, 2009

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That is one heck of a ring there and looks very heavy. They sure don't make jewelry like that today.

allen · Jul 27, 2009

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congrats on that awesome ring !!!!
Banner for certain !!

rufus3898 · Jul 27, 2009

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Thanks for all the kind replies and help on dating it! My cibola has been a pretty good gold magnet finding me 3 gold rings in the last month. May the gold streak continue and all the best luck in your hunts! Thanks and HH!

tymcmurray · Jul 27, 2009

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Beautiful find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!

jasper62 · Jul 27, 2009

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I must Agree,Banner.Congratulations on a very Cool Ring :icon_thumright:

MUD(S.W.A.T) · Jul 27, 2009

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I just have some points I'd like to make on the Hallmarks. :icon_scratch:

They don't put real stones in 9k gold and 9k is not used because its basically not gold. :dontknow:

I don't think it is 9k I think it is higher Karat.

What Karat I have no idea and you should get it tested. The ring looks like a design from the 1970's. Also the Hallmark Act did not happen until 1906 or something. :icon_scratch:

Finally they have been marking silverware for a long time. You have to be a doctor at this to understand most anything today. Almost all hallmarks have been changed and added to. So many thousands of different hallmarks its very hard to track down what you have. I 'm stumped, I have seen the Sideways anchor to represent many things even silverware and silverware makers use it today. I think you should take it to a jeweler and have it tested and looked at maybe appraised. If it was made in the 1800's with British Hallmarks don't you think it would be a higher Karat then 9k? That's less than 41% Gold... :icon_scratch:

I just think its a higher Karat and/or not as old as you think.

I guess it is 9k thats the English mark for 9k (.375) Its just strange to me, to have a real stone in that karat gold and to be from that time.

Awesome Find, stunning !! :icon_thumleft:

Keep @ it and HH!!

SusanMN · Jul 27, 2009

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I disagree with you, Mud. Go to a vintage jewelry website like www.rubylane.com and type in 9k Ring. You'll see many turn of the century rings with real stones that are 9k, including several gypsy rings that look at lot like this one.

Moonshadow · Jul 27, 2009

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What ever the results....9K.....24K....1800's...1970's.....It's still a gorgeous old ring!! BIG CONGRATS TO YOU!!! :icon_thumleft:

HH,
Moon

vermonster · Jul 27, 2009

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Nice find, just when your ready to go home ! Beep beep :headbang:

beep beep

jimbob450 · Jul 27, 2009

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I thing that is one hell of a ring. Banner Banner.Banner. Jimbob

stillgottawork · Jul 28, 2009

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That looks like a great find.............I'll give you a vote for banner........ :headbang:

rufus3898 · Jul 28, 2009

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MUD(S.W.A.T) said:
I just have some points I'd like to make on the Hallmarks. They don't put real stones in 9k gold and 9k is not used because its basically not gold. I don't think it is 9k I think it is higher Karat. What Karat I have no idea and you should get it tested. The ring looks like a design from the 1970's. Also the Hallmark Act did not happen until 1906 or something. Finally they have been marking silverware for a long time. You have to be a doctor at this to understand most anything today. Almost all hallmarks have been changed and added to. So many thousands of different hallmarks its very hard to track down what you have. I 'm stumped, I have seen the Sideways anchor to represent many things even silverware and silverware makers use it today. I think you should take it to a jeweler and have it tested and looked at maybe appraised. If it was made in the 1800's with British Hallmarks don't you think it would be a higher Karat then 9k? That's less than 41% Gold... I just think its a higher Karat and/or not as old as you think.

I guess it is 9k thats the English mark for 9k (.375) Its just strange to me, to have a real stone in that karat gold and to be from that time.

Awesome Find, stunning !!

Keep @ it and HH!!

I have had numerous people look at the hallmarks and it is 100% confirmed 1856-57 birmingham england. 9K was a common grade of gold used in the uk due to its durability in the 1800's. If you want research the hallmarks at the british assay office online and you will see without a doubt it dates at 1856-57. Thanks all and HH

Deno · Jul 28, 2009

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That is to cool. Never give up. Congratulations.

txkickergirl · Jul 28, 2009

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what a great one of a kind ring

gold fish · Jul 28, 2009

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I don't mean to burst a bubble, but my wife and I collect antiques, and she specializes in silverware, she knows what she's doing when it comes to 1800's hallmarks. If there is no stamp of a "lion" on the ring(It would be near the anchor), then it's not a Birmingham ring and it becomes much harder to date. I agree, it's old, but I honestly don't think it's that old. If you read the article, it states that you can only go by shape if you're dating silver -
"The date letters below show the background shape for silver. The same letters were used for Gold, which has been marked in Birmingham since 1824, but with a background of a square with cut corners."
Which means that if it is actually a Birmingham Ring, it could be from any year using a capitol "H". I would have a professional look at it, but don't be dissappointed if they say it's not that old, the thing is still freakin' cool.....especially if it fits !!!

Carson Coin Master · Jul 28, 2009

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you know they sell adult diapers just for occasions like this one, just in case you do mess yourself lol so i guess in the north
GOLD + SHOCK = POOP lol :laughing7:

gold fish · Jul 28, 2009

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This is another thing to consider...

Fineness or purity marks:

On gold, a crown plus the karat (spelled with a “c” in Britain, abbreviated “c” or “ct”) was used from 1798 until 1975 (22 ct was marked the same as sterling silver until 1844). In Scotland, a thistle was used instead of the crown. From 1798 to 1854, only gold assayed at 18 and 22 ct was permissible and hallmarked. In 1854, 15, 12, and 9 ct were legalized. The fineness in thousandths was added to these karat marks from 1854 to 1932.

I got it here...
http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm

I'm hoping some of this helps.