1800s Hair piece??

[Vino]

Just cleaned this up and Wow..
Did not know it had this gorgeous detail
Does anyone know what this could be??
Im thinking bun holder for a womens hair? ? Any help woud be great. ..
George

 

[Garrett424]

That's what it looks like to me too.

Cool find.

 

[jewelerguy]

that's a brooch with what looks like an Irish/Celtic design. It could be much older than 1800's. maybe Crusader or someone will chime in with a better ID

 

[Vino]

that's a brooch with what looks like an Irish/Celtic design. It could be much older than 1800's. maybe Crusader or someone will chime in with a better ID

I geuss that make sense. .I do see the celtic design. .
Thanks JG.

 

[OWK]

It is a penannular kilt pin.

Originally worn by Romans as a brooch to secure cloaks, they were adopted by Scots and Irish to secure Kilts and, continue in use today.

 

[OWK]

Penannular Kilt Pin

 

[Vino]

It is a penannular kilt pin.

Originally worn by Romans as a brooch to secure cloaks, they were adopted by Scots and Irish to secure Kilts and, continue in use today.

Awsome! !! Now thats cool..Thanks for the info...You really know ur stuff...
Geuss its hard to put a age on??
George

 

[OWK]

I would have no idea as to specific age. If I were to guess I would say it was 20th century, but only because of the condition of the brass. How deep was it?

 

[Vino]

I would have no idea as to specific age. If I were to guess I would say it was 20th century, but only because of the condition of the brass. How deep was it?

I dont remember. .But I found alot of King George's at that site also..So who knows..

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Vino , your still wishin' it' was a womens bun holder , see how ya guy's from Pa think ,


dawg

 

[Vino]

Vino , your still wishin' it' was a womens bun holder , see how ya guy's from Pa think ,

dawg

Lol...I have no clue..

 

[OWK]

I dont remember. .But I found alot of King George's at that site also..So who knows..

No doubt.

Could very well be older.

Lot of Scots-Irish immigrants in central Pa in the 18th and 19th century.

 

[Vino]

No doubt.

Could very well be older.

Lot of Scots-Irish immigrants in central Pa in the 18th and 19th century.

Lots of Scottish came to philadelphia in mid to late 1600's. .My area was loaded with them...Until us italians moved in...lol

 

[TNGUNS]

My wife is a hair dresser/barber and states she thinks it would likely be used to hold a woman's hair in a bun as well. Just a guess, but coming from PA would tend to think it more likely Colonial than Celtic. Whatever it is ..... it's AWESOME. Congrats

 

[RelicMedic]

Awesome find!

 

[John Winter]

The penannular kilt brooch gets my vote. Here are some variations ...

 

[Vino]

My wife is a hair dresser/barber and states she thinks it would likely be used to hold a woman's hair in a bun as well. Just a guess, but coming from PA would tend to think it more likely Colonial than Celtic. Whatever it is ..... it's AWESOME. Congrats

Thanks Tgun..

 

[Vino]

The penannular kilt brooch gets my vote. Here are some variations ...

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1046601"/>

http://s183.photobucket.com/user/JohnSenWint/media/KiltBrooch_zps85cd548e.jpg.html

Thanks John..Thats it.
George

 

[John Winter]

You can see a Roman brooch (and others of the type) on the UKDFD - United Kingdom Detector Finds Database

Penannular Brooch - UK Finds Database -

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=12501&title=penannular-brooch&cat=72

 

[Old Dude]

George, when I shook your hand, I was really hoping some of your luck might rub off on me. I see now that your sites, research and the fact you must have made a deal with the devil gets you these wonderful old relics. Congrats yet again on an awesome find. Was this from your 1800's farm site you just hunted? With the Philadelphia area's worldly history, it does not surprise me to find items from any nation.
OWK and jewelerguy, you made a very good identification! When I showed it to my gf ( she is English ), she says it is the kilt pin.