A Couple More Discoidals

[Treasure_Hunter]

Hippy posted a very nice discoidal so I thought I would add a couple from my collection. Large one found in Missouri, small one from Illinois side of the Mississippi river border with Missouri.

 

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[GaRebel1861]

For some reason discoidals that nice seem to elude me.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

For some reason discoidals that nice seem to elude me.

I walked hundreds and hundreds of miles of creeks and streams in Missouri and the Illinois side of border with Missouri for 20 years and only found these 2.

 

[joshuaream]

Treasure_Hunter, both are awesome finds, but that first one is an exceptional personal find.

 

[dognose]

very nice and rare finds.

What is the material of them?

 

[Relicgrubber]

Very cool stuff. Thanks for the post.

 

[willjo]

I have found some rough ones but that big one is really well made, I like it

 

[Peyton Manning]

Ok, I admit I am both dumb and too lazy to look it up

What is discoidal? The material or the design? What were they used for?

 

[ecmo]

Very cool looking and I'm sure a prized Native American? artifact but I too am curious on its use. Perhaps to grind corn and foodstuffs in.

Nonetheless congratulations on an interesting find.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I have a bunch of small Stone Discs and Pottery Discs but the big Discoidals just don't seem to be found in my area. I've never even found a piece of one as big as the one Hippy posted or this one above.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Thanks, I walked fields, creeks and streams for over 20 years usually at least 4 days a week. My job had me riding down county roads that had farm fields, creeks and streams everywhere 5 days a week. Part of my job was patrolling every mile of our fiber cables, looking for any erosion that would expose our cable. 80 miles of fiber route majority of it on county and state roads with lots of potential.

I was given cases of ball caps and nice work gloves to hand out to land owners. I became real good friends with a lot of land owners who gave me access to their property, a lot of it was huge farms with creeks and streams through them plowed to the edge of property or to the wooded creeks and streams. Missouri is rich with artifacts a some of them are high quality.

I had a partner that taught me how to hunt the creeks and streams which were stone bottom. I bet I walked 500 miles a year for 20 years hunting artifacts in artifact rich areas. When I moved back to Florida I only brought my better artifacts, I left all the broken ones in my rock garden of broken points. As it was I still brought couple hundred pounds of artifacts and display cases and a 300 pound petrified log I found while walking a creek.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

https://www.peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/22-game-stones/151-chunky-stones

Ok, I admit I am both dumb and too lazy to look it up

What is discoidal? The material or the design? What were they used for?

Here you go Jeff.

 

[Peyton Manning]

Thank you GR

 

[Kantuckkeean]

Those are AWESOME personal finds Treasure_Hunter. I'll bet you handled the top one every day for at least a month after finding it. I know I would have. I read about the discoidals a while back after someone mentioned them and now I want to find one, as much or more than an intact bannerstone or double-fluted Clovis. Definitely a bucket list item.

Kindest regards,
Kantuck

 

[Peyton Manning]

Interesting, who knew?

If I saw one in fields here I would know it was for something, and now I know.

I hope they played it in indiana

 

[lairmo]

Nice Jeff. I've only found one Chunky stone and it had a little less than a quarter break in it. It's somewhere around here if I find it I'll post it.

Edit: Oops meant TreasureHunter...was reading Jeff's post..lol

 

[discoidal roller]

Ok, I admit I am both dumb and too lazy to look it up

What is discoidal? The material or the design? What were they used for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunkey

Chunkey was the most popular Native game when Europeans arrived. Played by tribes across the entire continent, there was heavy gambling involved and losers lost everything, including wives and all possessions. Tribes competed against each other instead of going to war. Fun stuff.

A large discoidal manufacturing site was discovered close to where I live, and really sparked my interest in the subject...
https://jeffersonpatterson.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/chunkey-stones-in-maryland/

 

[Tnmountains]

I have only found a small clay one and do not think it was for the chunky game. Probably just a test of some clay. Have seen some amazing polished ones in this area that others found but not I.

 

[jamus peek]

I agree that first one is really nice. I have been walking creeks now for 4 years I try to every day ha ha. The creeks i walk seem to have themes I know what to look for in each creek. I also can tell when boundry lines of different tribes are by the artifacts found and materials. One of the creeks has a half mile stretch where i find discoidals. I do not find them anywhere else along the creek nor in any other creek.They come in sizes from 1 inch to 5 inches in diameter and each one is different in thickness and style. Primarily quartz sandstones some igneous vessicular materials ceramics and granite on occasion. The granite and volcanic materials were probably trade items because neither is locally available.


Today i went out to my discoidal spot your post pumped me up Ive had some medical issues lately so i take my time on my walks. Here are some photos of todays finds along with Baby my Bulldog who goes on every hunt by now over thousand days i recon. She hunts to i imagine she learned from me. She likes anything round that she can kick and play with. She has found artifacts. When she thinks shes found something good she brings it to my feet for approval.

This one was nice slightly concaved on one side. The other side was damaged so it didnt make the cut.


Here is an insitu i knew there was a good chance of being a discoidal because usually the lay flat and and only one side is visible.



Nice little grey quartz sandstone barrel.


Baby playing with a suspicious rock in the creek
Possible plummet diagonal groove is common here.




Also thanks for sharing its nice to here everyones story.

 

[sandchip]

Hellacious, Jamus. I've tried to get my dog to help me dig for artifacts, but I never thought about getting her to help look the creeks!