A day of Duties of a mining town policeman 1880

[tinpan]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

site pic

 

[freddy williams]

awsome hunt my friend keep up the good work

 

[worldtalker]

tinpan,Squeeze that quartz any harder,that nugget is gonna pop out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nice finds man! God Bless HH Chris

 

[CRUSADER]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

 

[tinpan]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

 

[worldtalker]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

Recon that means thar's gold still in them thar hills!

 

[tinpan]

Theres 115 known hard rock gold mines in Califorian Gully alone. Heres some old pics from few of the mines from 1856-1920

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

Recon that means thar's gold still in them thar hills!

So right you are but i do find other things too and that includes button from 1836-1950

 

[worldtalker]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

Recon that means thar's gold still in them thar hills!

So right you are but i do find other things too and that includes button from 1836-1950

tinpan, That is an IMPRESSIVE lot!God Bless HH Chris

 

[tinpan]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

In reguard to the condition of some of my finds. Climate is very dry and the ground doesn,t retain water, nor are farm chemicals used in mining methods. Different ground conditions are created by the various types of mining used. Even local flora and introduced flora has numerous affects on the ground. Quite a mixed bag of natural and unnatural ground conditions.

tinpan

 

[CRUSADER]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

I think your saying the Tombac was lost in the 1830s

But why the lack of WWI capbadges?

 

[tinpan]

Hi all

Quote "Crime seems to have been of a minor nature - sweeping the surface of the road (in search of gold bearing quartz which may have fallen from a cart taking it to a crushing mill). riding a bicycle on the footpath, hotel trading after hours,insulting behaviour, obscene language, and minor vandalism."

This quote was taken from a policemans note book that dates from 1890 in California Gully Bendigo

Over the past few weeks i have been working the flats around the local road where once miners huts ans stores and hard rock mines once existed. Only large piles of grey mullock tails can be seen today.Most of the free standing buildings were removed to house returned service-men after WW1 .
Here some site pics and the finds. My 3rd police button. made by Stokes and sons of Melbourne and dates from 1880.

tinpan

Not sure why this hasn't had more interest, the button has age & is in great condition

I have a couple of questions which puzzel me;
I always thought those tombac buttons were closer to 1800, than 1900. Is the button older than the site, re-used later, or the button itself was made closer to 1900? Thoughts please?
Also, why is there a lack of WWI finds, seeing as it had lots of activity from that period?

PS. great quote, brings your detecting/finds to life.

Explored and surveyed in 1830. Land grant issued in 1836 ,known as the Ravenwoods Sheep Run about 1200 square miles. Gold was discovered by local stockmen in 1851.Gold feild was made up of 4 divisions Huntly, Bendigo, Kangaroo Flat and Eaglehawk.

Alluvial Gold was discovered in California Gully in 1852.When most of the alluvial gold had been collected by pan and cradling,men dug deeper after the elusive metal. Methods had been developed to crush and treat the hard rock to extract fine particles of gold. Deep or reef mining began, assisted by revised mining laws in 1859, prermitting claims to be amalgamated. Men formed companies and pooled their resources to opay for equipment needed.

Pudddling machines using horses recovered gold from the disturbed earth left by the alluvial miners.Puddling was at its peak in 1856,but created huge amounts og sludge which choked the streams.

Statistics of the Eaglehawk Mining division {of which California Gully was a part} in 1862 showed 4,300 people were connected with mining,out of a total population of 8,300. There were 2900 Europeans and 500 chiness engaged in alluvial mining, while 900 were busy with quartz mining. There were 490 puddling machines in the Eaglehawk Division. The price of gold was $7.62 per troy ounce.
Rich reefs containing gold bearing quartz ran below California gully. 33 main reefs run North to South and about 25 miles long, the gullies run East to West so many of the reefs cross California Gully.
During the first hard rock mine boom od the 1879's many mining companies were floated no all were successful.It became evident that the reefs repeated with dept, so shafts went deeper in the 1880's
tributors were men who worked part of a mine for a specific time,without wages,but were entitled to keep a % of the gold won.

Gold production declined in the early 1900,s resulting in the closure of many mines. WW1 exacerbated the problem with a drying up of investment capital and the lack of man-power as the young men went off to war. When the price of gold went up in Great Depression this started a mining revival on a limited scale from 1925-1954.


tinpan will post some of the mines that existed in this location

I think your saying the Tombac was lost in the 1830s

But why the lack of WWI capbadges?

Morning road call 21st battalion 1915 before the battle of Fromelles 650 men accounted for. At the end of the day 132 standing and wounded present at road call.Seems most of the capbadges lay in the soil of the battle feilds of ww1.So if the result of the 21 battalion was only one small part of an army of 400,000 how great were the losses over all.Most families here hang onto the badges and medals . i have found a few .

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

Bit more info for you. Australian AIF were mainly stationed in Egypt. Reserves mounted some 70,000 at any one time during WW1. Seems AIF collar badges are not common finds in English parks.They had better things to do than play english sea-saw.

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

First white settlement was 1788. do you think of 40,000 convicts alone deported Australia may have had tombac buttons.When there was also free settlers.When gold rush started in 1850 the population in this part of southern Australia went up by 500,000 may they had tombac buttons. I think so.


tinpan

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

That Victoria Police Department button is in beautiful shape Tinpan!

Great photo's and very informative historic research to back it up!

Dave

 

[tinpan]

That Victoria Police Department button is in beautiful shape Tinpan!

Great photo's and very informative historic research to back it up!

Dave

The police button was found 1 mile upstream from where in 1886 a local policeman Constable Thomas Ryan went missing. Could it be ? don,t know

http://www.upholdtheright.com/odmp1.htm#RYAN

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

Thanks all for the interest but i will alway call myself a novice until i claim one of the 2 super rares to be had here. 1930 penny or Australian silver holy dollar.

tinpan

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

That Victoria Police Department button is in beautiful shape Tinpan!

Great photo's and very informative historic research to back it up!

Dave

The police button was found 1 mile upstream from where in 1886 a local policeman Constable Thomas Ryan went missing. Could it be ? don,t know

http://www.upholdtheright.com/odmp1.htm#RYAN

tinpan

Very interesting reading mate!

Constable Thomas RYAN
On 6 January 1886, after escorting his niece to her house in White Hills, Constable RYAN decided to patrol the local Chinese camp. This was the last time he was ever seen. His disappearance triggered an extensive search of the area, but no trace of him was ever found.

Your button certainly could have belonged to him or possibly one of the officers that were looking for him.

Thanks for the link,
Dave

 

[slak jak]

hey tinpan , i hope you find a 1930 penny , it gets a bit lonely here being the
only one to have found one , that said i still class myself as an amateur
after 25 plus years detecting , dont do much these days due to problems
but still get out when i can , enjoy your articles & all the others .
best wishes to you & all the rest , slak jak.