JACK PEPPER: “Visitors coming into the DESERT magazine office to see the nuggets on display often ask if they were found within the circled area of the map, or were they in the Chocolate Mountains?”
TMWFPBG: “In answer to Jack Pepper’s letter about whether the location is within the circle of the map or in the Chocolate Mountains, let me say that I considered this when writing the story, but this information along with several other clues which I put into the story without realizing it would pinpoint the area too closely. I’m not trying to tantalize anybody, but it’s my intention not to reveal the location at this time, so I will stand on my original statement that the black gold is somewhere within the confines of the 1946 map – which was reprinted on Page 37 of the March DESERT.”
JOE YOUNG: “Large gold, small pebbles, but no boulders mentioned. This does not add up, and I have heard this description before. Perhaps you can explain how heavy gold got there in the absence of other heavy material.”
TMWFPBG: “In response to Joe Young’s letter: Can I explain how heavy gold nuggets got there in the absence of other heavy material? There are two points: (1) Heavy material is there all right, although I deliberately did not describe the location in detail as it would pinpoint the location too closely. (2) I stated in the story that my theory was that after the gold was alluviated, possibly buried completely. Actually, I believe the area where I found the nuggets had been thrust upwards, and in the story I said this. Joe Young did not read the story closely. There is no doubt in my mind that at one time most of the nuggets were on bed rock in a stream bed and were exposed on the surface or close to the surface in the manner I’ve described.”
JOHN SOUTHWORTH: “I would like the finder of Pegleg’s gold to comment on my article in this issue. Was there unusual igneous activity indicated near his find; was there water, or a dried up spring; were there signs of Indian ceremonial activity?
TMWFPBG: “I found Mr. Southworth’s Pegleg story in last month’s DESERT very interesting. He is warmer than the thinks! The small black pebbles found by the railroad man are, in my opinion, real Pegleg black gold nuggets. I stated plainly in my story that I thought there were other places where the black nuggets could be found on or near the surface, although it might be miles away from my own discovery. In answer to his questions, I did not find any old springs, but did find a small amount of volcanic activity, and there are a couple of small rock rings similar to the one shown on page 15 of his story. The rings were about two feet in diameter and composed of heavily varnished rocks, indicating they had been in position an extremely long time.
Letters from our Readers, Page 46
“Letters about Pegleg Gold”
Oscar L. Brauer
Howard D. Clark
A.W. Cawson
R.E. Doty
Roy H. Driver
Bill Knyvett
Wilson J. McKinney
W.M. Taylor
June 1965, Vol 28, No 6
“Letters from our Readers,” Page 38
Choral Pepper, “To the Man Who Found Pegleg’s Gold”
Robert Buck, “To the Man Who Found Pegleg’s Gold”
Ed Kirkland
Jordon Stephens
New letters with questions and comments (Editor noted that TMWFPBG did not
respond to letters in the May issue of The Desert magazine.)
July 1965, Vol 28, No 7
Here Lies Pegleg’s Lost Gold, Pages 30-31, 38:
Introduction by the Editor of The Desert magazine (Choral Pepper) followed by a letter from TMWFPBG who responds to letters published in the May 1965 issue of The Desert magazine.
Letters from our Readers
To the Man Who Found Pegleg’s Black Gold, Page 39
Ironfield, Milton
Loos, Mrs.
August-September 1965, Vol 28, No 7&8
Letter from the Man Who Found Pegleg Gold, Page 57
TMWFPBG responds to letters published in June 1965 issue of Desert magazine
“Letters from our Readers,” Pages 61-62
Expert Opinion on Pegleg’s Gold (Desert magazine asked Mr. Harry J. Phillips of El Cajon, CA for opinion as to where such a lode might exist.):
“To the Editor: Pegleg black gold does exist along the Elsinore fault in the Julian district. The same slaty phylite schist existing in the California Mother Lode was very productive in gold. The last uplift caused ice-age erosion to a depth of 2500 ft., or more, of this gold bearing schist. A U.S.G.S. report estimated that, at $20 per oz., a 1000 million in gold eroded from the Volcan Mt. Near Julian through Colman Creek westerly onto Ramona flat, where an estimated 100 million in gold, difficult to recover, reposes in cemented young conglomerate gravel.
East of Ramona, $2 nuggets were dug out of an exposed bedrock. However, most of this gold bearing schist, as eroded, moved easterly onto what is now a desert area embraced by the State Park. During the ice-age, when most erosion occurred, this area was covered with forests and great rivers provided the milling and assorting action to produce gold placer deposits. It is possible that remnants of ancient old-channel placers exist, which may be detected by a marked red color due to the heavy black iron associated with placer gold. Where much lime exists, the red iron oxide would change to gray carbonate of iron. All old channel gold is coated black. Much of the gold could be locked up in young conglomerate and caliche. Secondary erosion would produce bright gold.
In the Oatman District no sample is taken above 60 ft. level because the fine gold is certain to be leached. Sulphuric acid (from sulphides in vein), desert chlorides (salt) and manganese yield chlorine which dissolves gold. In the higher Julian area I milled gold from surface ore, but no gold could be panned in the eroded vein matter a short distance away from the outcropping vein. With no stream action, no recent gold placer deposits exist in the Southwest desert area.
NJ rode into the small trading post on the east side of Volcan Mt., on a road leading from San Felipe Valley to Warners. An Indian left on horseback and returned in two hours with gold.
An Indian took a doctor upon Pinon Mt., pointed easterly and said, “When the wind blow, Indian pick up gold.”
Pegg map: Starting at the old Vallecito Stage Station, you go 6 miles along the Warners road to where you can see 3 hills, thence 6 miles farther to the red hill. At the time a short-cut trail to Warners existed also. The map was not oriented. I believe that the hills would be low table-mountains or hog-backs. A fireman on the gypsum railroad, extending from Plaster City on Highway 8 to the Gypsum mine, found Pegg dying of thirst. He poured water to him too fast and he died, but not before pointing westerly when asked where he got the poke of gold he carried.
A National City man claimed pleasing results from crevassing bed rock on week ends in the Sentenec-Canyon Stream which drains San Felipe Basin east of Julian and flows into San Felipe wash. The Vallecito Wash joins the San Felipe Wash just east of the Fish Creek Mts. Various wells, sunk in the lower San Felipe wash, revealed placer gold.
Guy let his grandfather out at Harper’s Well with a dry washer. He would walk up the wash. This was below the junction of Vallecito and San Felipe Creeks. In the Fish Creek Mts., within the Park, lies a roof pendent of Julian Schist of the Elsinore fault. A prospector found pieces of fresh-broken quartz with gold on both sides of the schist ridge. On a vein at the foot of this schist hill he did $50,000 worth of development work.”
October 1965, Vol 28, No 10, Page 38
Letters: Jack Derfus, “All for Pegleg”
Thelma Dunlap, “To the Man Who Found Pegleg’s Gold”
The Willenbacher Family
W.A. Linkletter, W.A., “Pegleg No Secret”: “To the Editor: In the controversy over the location of
The Lost Pegleg Mine, may I add a few lines? I wrote the first story the DESERT Magazine published
about this historic event in which I interviewed a man by the name of H. C. Marshall, near
Travertine Rocks. Marshall said he was an old friend of Pegleg Smith and the last time he saw him
Pegleg came to his home in Portland and he loaned him $250 to come to San Bernardino and assemble
a prospecting outfit with which to look for the lost gold deposit, which he said was on the
old Butterfield Stage Route, opposite a well where all emigrant trains stopped to water up. This well was
in the southern part of the Borrego reservation a few miles east of Warner’s Ranch, and the black gold
nuggets were found on the top of one of the three little hills opposite the well. This old well is located in
the San Pasqual Wash that runs from Corn Springs to Warner’s Ranch and can easily be located by
following the old stage route. There is no secret about the location, but anyone trying to locate the
nuggets should have a good locator of metal. “
November 1965, Vol 28, No 11
Letters: Choral Pepper, “To the Man Who Found Pegleg’s Gold,” Page 38
Robert W. Blair, “Sturdy Steed,” Page 38
J.M. Yates, “Collector’s Item,” Page 39