Ancient Oklahoma River Kills

[fossis]

These bones were found in Ok rivers, preserved in the wet sand for thousands of years, they were found in association with Indian Artifacts & Indian bones,(which are not collected), these include, deer teeth, Giant Bison teeth, deer antler, buffalo vertebrea, & skull, (which could be as old as 11,000 yrs), deer leg bone, & two points, (large one is beveled).
These were probably butchered by Indians, or died in quicksand, & lost in the river bottom until found.
They are all partially fossilized, teeth are turned to stone.

Fossis...............

 

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[wildrider]

Re: Oklahoma River Kills

I like the golden Buffalo.

Great photos and info.

I'd like to hear them speak.

Burt

 

[borninok]

Re: Oklahoma River Kills

Absolutely remarkable! One cannot ever stop marveling over our past history! And...if we ever do stop marveling....then it's time for us to end up in those pictures. Thanks....again....absolutely remarkable.
---Mel

borninok

 

[fossis]

Re: Oklahoma River Kills

I like the golden Buffalo.

Great photos and info.

I'd like to hear them speak.

Burt

Thanks wildrider, the color is golden brown from being
submerged in the wet sand I guess, I would also love to hear their stories of the wild, free, days of the ancient Indians.

Fossis.................

 

[fossis]

Re: Oklahoma River Kills

Absolutely remarkable! One cannot ever stop marveling over our past history! And...if we ever do stop marveling....then it's time for us to end up in those pictures. Thanks....again....absolutely remarkable.
---Mel

borninok

Thanks borninok, We do have a fabulous History,
I can't even imagine what it would be like to have been there at that time in history,

Fossis...................

 

[borninok]

Re: Oklahoma River Kills

Ya know, Fossis, that's what makes our hobbies of metal detecting/artifact hunting so intriguing......we can do something that a lot of people can't do........we can slip into that "discovery" consciousness and think/imagine of the days of our ancestors. So many today lack that ability to separate the day-to-day grind and can't even feel what our history was like. We are truly blessed to be able to do this. I remember studying Oklahoma history in school, and I would sometimes seem to slip off in a trance.....imagining. The pictures you showed today is a huge reminder....we didn't just get here via the subway tunnels.....we are here because of those fossils. Thanks again.

--Mel

borninok

 

[fossis]

Thanks Mel, I often remind our young people that
every inch of this land has a History, from farmers plowing & clearing their fields with a rifle slung over their shoulder, to bones & Artifacts dug up on nearly every place they plowed near water, Old timers would tell me when it came an (overflow) on their plowed fields, they would find impressions, where indian burials had been, & one told of a Gold chain plowed up (possibly from De Soto's trip)
through Western Ar, others told of hooking clay pots with their plows, countless Artifacts were lost this way.
As I get older, I realize my generation must pass on our knowledge to the young ones who come along, as others did for us.
HH, Fossis................

 

[ohioriver hunter]

These bones were found in Ok rivers, preserved in the wet sand for thousands of years, they were found in association with Indian Artifacts & Indian bones,(which are not collected), these include, deer teeth, Giant Bison teeth, deer antler, buffalo vertebrea, & skull, (which could be as old as 11,000 yrs), deer leg bone, & two points, (large one is beveled).
These were probably butchered by Indians, or died in quicksand, & lost in the river bottom until found.
They are all partially fossilized, teeth are turned to stone.

Fossis...............

really neat find . i love fossils too i,ll post a couple pics soon though nothin as kool or valuable ohio river hunter

 

[fossis]

Thanks Hunter, we'll be looking for them,

Fossis.........................

 

[Johnny X]

That is an awesome find my friend.

xstevenx

 

[tomsneck]

Pretty impressive fossis, I'd love to find someting like that. Were those wet or did they come out shiny like that? Keep it up.

colin

 

[Calworks]

Congrataulations! I envy those like you that have the areas to look for these items, you never hear much about california and Indian relics except the Chumash and if you ever find one...look out the states probably looking at you as well.

Awesome finds Fossis

 

[fossis]

That is an awesome find my friend.

xstevenx

Thanks Johnny X,
Fossis...............

 

[fossis]

Pretty impressive fossis, I'd love to find someting like that. Were those wet or did they come out shiny like that? Keep it up.

colin

The Buffalo skull was still wet when I traded for it, I did a trade with a guy who lives near the river, you can still shake sand out of the cavities in the skull, it has been dried & a clear sealer applied to
preserve the bones, (as soon as they dry they start to crack).
I have had it about 10 or 12 yrs, the color is from thousands of yrs of time.
I have the tip of a Columbian Mammoth tusk, it has sand stuck to it, that I never cleaned off, the Ivory is yellow with some black on it.
I have seen backbones that no one can identify, turtle shell, teeth of all kinds, etc.
The Giant Bison teeth have completely turned to stone, & some are
blue-grey in color
HH,
Fossis..................

 

[fossis]

Congrataulations! I envy those like you that have the areas to look for these items, you never hear much about california and Indian relics except the Chumash and if you ever find one...look out the states probably looking at you as well.

Awesome finds Fossis

The River bed is owned by the Indian tribes, people fish, shoot skeet, rockhound, pan for Gold, ride 4 wheelers & dune buggy's , swim, as long as you don't bother the Eagle sanctuarys in the area.

Fossis................

 

[Neanderthal]

Fossis, I hunt the Arkansas River some here in Eastern Oklahoma. The "giant bison" you talk about are probably Occidentalis or Antiquus. We have Bison Bison, Occidentalis, Antiquus and Latifrons, the latter two are very rare. Usually Bison Bison skulls don't attain width wider than 26-27", Occidentalis can get around 33-36" or so, Antiquus 36"+.....and Latifrons is just damn rare and can get wider than a person is tall. Most common are Bison Bison and Bison Occidentalis. The "blue teeth" you describe, we sometimes call Pleistocene teeth, simply because they usually seem the oldest and have the most mineralization. Here's a pic of a bison skull on the river...http://www.arrowheads1.com/images/bisonskull.jpg

Matt

 

[fossis]

Fossis, I hunt the Arkansas River some here in Eastern Oklahoma. The "giant bison" you talk about are probably Occidentalis or Antiquus. We have Bison Bison, Occidentalis, Antiquus and Latifrons, the latter two are very rare. Usually Bison Bison skulls don't attain width wider than 26-27", Occidentalis can get around 33-36" or so, Antiquus 36"+.....and Latifrons is just damn rare and can get wider than a person is tall. Most common are Bison Bison and Bison Occidentalis. The "blue teeth" you describe, we sometimes call Pleistocene teeth, simply because they usually seem the oldest and have the most mineralization. Here's a pic of a bison skull on the river...http://www.arrowheads1.com/images/bisonskull.jpg

Matt

Thanks for the info Matt,

Fossis...................

 

[badandy]

That is an awesome find for sure fossis! The large artifact looks like a harahay and if you can take some close up's of the second point I can tell you what type it is as well. Looks like a stone square stem from here. Thanks for showing them to us.
badandy

 

[fossis]

That is an awesome find for sure fossis! The large artifact looks like a harahay and if you can take some close up's of the second point I can tell you what type it is as well. Looks like a stone square stem from here. Thanks for showing them to us.
badandy

Thanks badandy, I used to know quite a few names of points, but I am into so many things now, Rocks & Minerals, Meteorites,
bottle collecting, Indian Artifacts, Garage sales, Antique Collecting, metal Detecting, that I am rusty on my types,plus I don't have a point book now, & I have a touch of (old timers disease) ,

Here are close-ups Fossis.............
notice the river polish

 

[MRDUKE]

absolutely awesome fossis, when you think of all the generations that past before some one found them . the eons upon eons of time passing by . people being born and dieing ,never knowing what lays beneath them. to some people though are nothing but old bones ,but to outhers there a record of history. i collect and shoot old guns , someone will show me a new gun and I'm not that impressed , but when some one hands me an old gun i get very excited , because you can feel the history in it , you know if it could talk the storeys it could tell, maybe about old hunts of long ago , or the time it was raised to protect the family. anything old has this ability if one will just lesion , i pitty the generation that no longer wants to hear what history has to say.