Any vintage watch Fob experts?

[neodetectorist]

Along with this 48 wheetie, I am posting for review and information on this vintage watch fob.

The Fob material appears to be copper. Was it shiney like a penny when new?
I don't think it was plated. Maybe it had an enamel paint on it. No markings. Check out the back. I have not seen a Fob like this one before. Did this slip into a big button?
Can anyone guess on the age?
Thanks in advanced.

 

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[Professor of Engineering]

Cool find!

 

[A2coins]

Really cool you sure its a watch fob

 

[neodetectorist]

Really cool you sure its a watch fob

It has some characteristics of a Fob. The hoop on top for instance. Being a rectangular shape as fobs are, that was my best guess. No circular hoop as a pendant. It does not appear to have a pin to be a brooch.
I am definitely open to what others think though.

 

[creskol]

It has some characteristics of a Fob. The hoop on top for instance. Being a rectangular shape as fobs are, that was my best guess. No circular hoop as a pendant. It does not appear to have a pin to be a brooch.
I am definitely open to what others think though.

I think it is half of a sash buckle and would have looked similar to my "reconstruction" below.

 

[A2coins]

Go find the other half Really nice relic

 

[creskol]

Go find the other half Really nice relic

Wouldn't that be cool if he could find it?

 

[Squirrel322]

Its very a interesting piece. I'm not really sure what it is but I have my doubts about it being a sash buckle...

 

[A2coins]

Wouldn't that be cool if he could find it?

I have a habbit over going back to spots where I find cool stuff I mean over and over and over and over. With that piece I would dig down 6inches all around the hole then a little more just to be sure the heavier piece didn't sink lol

 

[creskol]

Its very a interesting piece. I'm not really sure what it is but I have my doubts about it being a sash buckle...

Being of light weight construction with an obvious cross bar and hook, what other suggestions would you offer?

 

[neodetectorist]

I am liking the theory. Thanks
I will definitely hit this area again.
It is an old cinder ash pile mix.
It looks like an area where they disgarded their burnt coal from their furnaces.
Lots of mason jar lids , trash, and bottles too.
Hopefully some old coins will show up too.

 

[Squirrel322]

Being of light weight construction with an obvious cross bar and hook, what other suggestions would you offer?

The loop behind the shell would seem to suggest a sash buckle. I am not an expert but there are a couple of things that set it apart from most sash buckles. The outer clasp-hook is usually concealed by the design so when they lock together they hide the clasp. The outer clasp also seems to be a bit on the small side in comparison to most.

The open space between the shell and outer clasp is awkward in terms of design. I could see that space being filled by an interlocking type of buckle but if that were the case, the outer clasp would seem unnecessary.