Anyone else really dislike the Minelabs fruity tones?

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I love my Nox, but I do not love the tones. They aren't very confident scream at you like my F75 is. This is wishful thinking but, is it possible to have an update with something like a 2F tone that squawks at you like a mad bird when you have a good target. I guess the tones on the Nox are way to soft/slow and feel lazy in comparison to my other machines. and miss alot. I only have about 50hrs on it.

Dont take this the wrong way. I do love my Nox
 

Good audio is a must for me. I blame is on years in submarine sonar and then doing field recording as a hobby. The audio on the equinox feels a bit sluggish to me. Even in 50 tones it's not as good at conveying what it's seeing to me through audio as my other detector is. The fluty tones wouldn't be so bad if the audio processing time period was finer and faster. I like the detector but I'd gladly have paid more for more detailed audio.
 

100% agree, my tones on my other machine hits a target like a Mike Tyson punch. If not make it have a 2f type tone, it would be nice to sharpen the current tones so it hits hard and in sync. Honestly cant see how minelab missed this during testing.
 

The ML flutey tones and lack of target overload modulation took some getting used to from me at first, coming from a Deus (talk about squawking, lol). But now that I have a few hundred swing hours it, I pretty much have no doubt when the Equinox smacks a coin (high conductor or nickel) and it pings like striking a golf ball with the sweet spot of a golf club. I like 50-tone, personally, which is less customizable then 5 tones (but I pretty much left the tone customizations alone even in 5 tones). Whether in 5-tones or 50-tones, I pretty much know it when I get a solid hit on a high conductive keeper with a rich, sweet tone. I personally have a hard time going back to my F75 now, it sounds like a toy piano vs. a baby grand in terms of getting useful, nuanced tone information before I dig a target, but I don't think I got as proficient on the F75 (especially in 2F) as I did on the Deus and as I am now on the Equinox, to be fair. I even now prefer the confident Equinox ping tone vs. my Deus which I have racked up the most swing hours on of all my detectors.

Sounds like you prefer multi tones (i.e., 2 or 5 tones) over 50-tones. The multitone customizations available on the Equinox are the best I have seen of any detector as you can customize the tone break, tone pitch, and individual volume of each tone bin independently. I think if you experimented with the custom tone settings, you could make it emulate, to a certain degree, the 2-tone setting of the F75. But you cannot get that varable pitch 2F for the non-ferrous target information that the F75 gives you which is a sort of hybrid tone/pitch setting which is unique to the F75, T2 and their other First Texas cousins. Gold mode on the Equinox does sort of have that VCO pitch like audio but it is quirkier and different than pitch mode on the Deus or 2F on the F75, so it is something I am still acquiring a taste for but does appear to have some value when hunting for targets in mineralizedasoil and/or iron infested sites. Still learning how to make best use of gold mode for certain specialized detecting situations, besides gold prospecting which is not something I have tried.

As far as Equinox multi tone customizations go check out these threads if you haven't already done so

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/equinox/589932-my-expanded-case-3-tones.html

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/equinox/591033-adjusting-zones-tones-my-3-tone-setting.html

HTH
 

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I have the 600, since it was just going to be a water machine only. Looks like the 600 can only adjust the iron/ferrous tone which is useless in my case for the most part.
 

I actually really like the tones. In comparison with my mx sport, there is such a distinct wide range of tones. And they are more pleasing to the ear.
 

I actually really like the tones. In comparison with my mx sport, there is such a distinct wide range of tones. And they are more pleasing to the ear.

Same here. I much prefer the sounds of my Equinox vs. my Deus.
 

I most likely need to get more hours in on it and get more use to the tones. It is the first flutey tone machine ive owned. Always used deus, F75 and Nokta my whole life. Ill put some more hours in on it and reevaluate.
 

It definitely takes some time to get comfortable with the tones. Cranking the volume up all the way helped me.
 

Customizing the tones is a must, imo, since the default/stock ones were too soft/quiet for my ears. I basically tuned my Nox in 5 tones to have similar notes as my MXT. It was an easy transition doing this way.

When customizing tones, you'll find that there are some tonal increments, many in the mid to high range, that just don't "smack" in your headphones. Those are the ones to avoid. If you haven't already, you should definitely explore these and find the right ones for your ears. Also, try different tone increments from each tone break like octave up, alternating between minors, etc..

And yeah, it took me a while to realize that the volume settings on the Nox also effects the headphone volume. For weeks I thought that volume was for the speaker only. oops. Once I boosted it, everything was perfect.
 

Go try the old explorer that has the "flutey tones" I actually think the nox sounds more traditional.
 

Yep they use to say the same about the Explorers too. To me the Minelabs tones are what made them great all the way back to the Sov. GT.
 

Listen to a Garrett, nuff said.
 

For me the equinox tone are fantastic as compared to many other detectors. My deus tones can be a little too crisp for me.. nothing like the f75 , t2 or makro as those did give headaches.. the equinox tones are soft and musical to me.. kind of relaxing..
 

Coming from Explorer SE Pros and Etracs...I'm loving the 5 and 50 tones.
 

For me the equinox tone are fantastic as compared to many other detectors. My deus tones can be a little too crisp for me.. nothing like the f75 , t2 or makro as those did give headaches.. the equinox tones are soft and musical to me.. kind of relaxing..

I prefer the Deus audio myself. Sharp, crisp, and detailed. The Nox audio seems a bit... blorpy? I'm use to sharp and distinct and I get warbling jello. I just need more time on it to learn that style of audio.
 

To my mind, tones are like cheating i use a couple older whites and a compadre for real detecting. more challenging. however i do own a nox 600 for saltwater beaches in MA.
 

The ML flutey tones and lack of target overload modulation took some getting used to from me at first, coming from a Deus (talk about squawking, lol). But now that I have a few hundred swing hours it, I pretty much have no doubt when the Equinox smacks a coin (high conductor or nickel) and it pings like striking a golf ball with the sweet spot of a golf club. I like 50-tone, personally, which is less customizable then 5 tones (but I pretty much left the tone customizations alone even in 5 tones). Whether in 5-tones or 50-tones, I pretty much know it when I get a solid hit on a high conductive keeper with a rich, sweet tone. I personally have a hard time going back to my F75 now, it sounds like a toy piano vs. a baby grand in terms of getting useful, nuanced tone information before I dig a target, but I don't think I got as proficient on the F75 (especially in 2F) as I did on the Deus and as I am now on the Equinox, to be fair. I even now prefer the confident Equinox ping tone vs. my Deus which I have racked up the most swing hours on of all my detectors.

Sounds like you prefer multi tones (i.e., 2 or 5 tones) over 50-tones. The multitone customizations available on the Equinox are the best I have seen of any detector as you can customize the tone break, tone pitch, and individual volume of each tone bin independently. I think if you experimented with the custom tone settings, you could make it emulate, to a certain degree, the 2-tone setting of the F75. But you cannot get that varable pitch 2F for the non-ferrous target information that the F75 gives you which is a sort of hybrid tone/pitch setting which is unique to the F75, T2 and their other First Texas cousins. Gold mode on the Equinox does sort of have that VCO pitch like audio but it is quirkier and different than pitch mode on the Deus or 2F on the F75, so it is something I am still acquiring a taste for but does appear to have some value when hunting for targets in mineralizedasoil and/or iron infested sites. Still learning how to make best use of gold mode for certain specialized detecting situations, besides gold prospecting which is not something I have tried.

As far as Equinox multi tone customizations go check out these threads if you haven't already done so

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/equinox/589932-my-expanded-case-3-tones.html

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/equinox/591033-adjusting-zones-tones-my-3-tone-setting.html

HTH

I can't use tone pitch 25 for the high tone. Lowering it to the 20-21 range made a big difference for me.
 

Same here. I much prefer the sounds of my Equinox vs. my Deus.

Ironic, since the Deus is the French made detector, but I think of the Deus as a gutteral German voice, where the Equinox is a soft, gentle French woman's voice.
 

Love the tones. They just hit different than the deus.
 

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