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Oroblanco, I see tthat you already had your have you ever read the old story of the spirit cursed gold mine. get another cup of np
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Oroblanco, I see tthat you already had your have you ever read the old story of the spirit cursed gold mine. get another cup of np
Well we all have our opinions; however keep in mind that the gold in the matchbox specimen (as with the earring) is not like MOST gold mined in Arizona, which is mostly from a different type of gold vein than Waltz's. <The majority of gold deposits in Arizona are Epithermal type, which are normally shallow and have a good amount of copper alloyed with the gold> This could mean it did not come from AZ, or that it came from the rarest type of gold vein (in Arizona that is rare) a hypothermal type, which has high gold to silver content, little copper, large grain size of the host quartz among other key points. The Vulture mine had hypothermal vein characteristics similar to what the LDM must be, if you look at Vulture gold it does not look like MOST gold found in Arizona either.
<specimen from the Vulture sold at auction>
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Interesting that you point out that the matchbox ore resembles Vulture ore but not known Superstition gold samples, which carry significant copper. Freudian slip? The following thread discusses alleged 'Dutchman ore' in depth, for those who are interesthtml. Dutchman Ore http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/lost-dutchman-s-mine/356971-dutchman-ore.html
Oroblanco, have you ever read any of Maurice kildares stories on the superstitions, his web site is really amazing and you can read the stories on the net all the way back to the 30's, but be sure to get more np
If Waltz took Julia and whom ever to the mine.
But was at the verde, and it would be until the next day to get there, to the mine.
Then it is not in the supes.
The Verde empties into the salt.
Unless Im wrong.
Why would he go North to the Verde, to get to his mine in the supes?
Unless the Verde was part of the supes back then or I say the salt river mountains.
In an older thread, you can find other evidences including statements of a person who saw the receipts for the shipment of a quarter million dollars worth of gold by Waltz; this is exclusive of the several thousand he shelled out to help his friends Julia and Reiney, and was shipped when the price of gold was pegged at $20.17 an ounce (troy).
... Now call me a skeptic, but I shoulda wore my hip waders to cross this **** river.
Sooooo, you say in one of your posts how relatively small his mine must have been, then above the kicker, "a person who saw the receipts for the shipment of a quarter million dollars worth of gold by Waltz." So again, let's do some basic math, $20 bucks an ounce and Waltz selling $250,000 worth of gold at then $20 an ounce. So the Dutchman who lived in nothing more than a river bottom shanty, had come up with 12,500 ounces or 780 pounds of it. So let me get this straight, the Dutchman refined 750 pounds of gold while nobody saw anything other than him disappearing into the mountains for a couple weeks? And then to top it off some random jackwagon off the street saw the receipt for $250,000 dollars of refined gold at the going price of $20 an ounce. Now call me a skeptic, but I shoulda wore my hip waders to cross this **** river.
Roy,
I believe my premise was that the Pit Mine was a cache for Waltz's ore, not that it was the original source. Could be the reason Waltz never filed a claim. Fear that the owners of the cache would come back if they learned someone was using their ore for a......bank account.
I am convinced that the $250,000. story is a complete fabrication. You keep going back to that story as if there was some truth to it. There has never been a "mint" in Sacramento. The US Mints never took ore in. They only accepted refined ore......gold.
Other than that, nice post.
As I understand it, the Pit Mine has been resealed. You would have to break the law to see that room. Since the mine was cleaned out, it would be a big risk for little, if any, return.
Take care,
Joe
Roy,
What if the ore was hauled from the massacre sites?
Take care,
Joe
Also there are at least three assayers in Sacramento, which is another option for a place to ship gold ore to, and two other foundries.